HollywoodAFD
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 6:45 AM
Do you believe the Mayans?
They had a very precise understanding of our solar system's cycles and believed that these cycles coincided with our spiritual and collective consciousness. The Mayans knew that our sun every so often synchronized with the central galaxy and from this central galaxy received a spark of light which causes the sun to shine more intensely producing solar flares and changes in the sun's magnetic field. They say that this happens every 5,125 years and also that this causes a displacement in the earths rotation, and because of this movement great catastrophes would be produced. Makes sense I guess.
So in 3113 B.C. the Mayans predicted that the world would go though a 5,125 year cycle before the sun would cause such devastation that no life could survive.
I'm still not sure how I stand on all this but there is some pretty interesting stuff on that calendar. For instance...The Mayans prophesied that the start of the last 13 year period would be marked by a solar eclipse on August 11, 1999. They made this prophecy in 3113 BC...and yes...there was a solar eclipse on that exact date.
My question would be concerning the translation of this calendar. There's no way it says August 11, 1999 because there was no "august" in 3113 BC.
I would think it probably says X number of days from day Y ....yada yada...
Anyhoooo... I digress
Does this mean they are good at predicting the end of the world? No... but it means they have a pretty good understanding of the solar system which they claim is the reason the world will end in 2012.
How does any of this fit in with your faith or no faith? IMO... it has nothing to do with it. If they are saying that the galaxy is set to destruct on that day, your faith can not change it.
rjkdb8
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 7:35 AM
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 7:45 AM)

Makes sense I guess.
Heh.
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 7:45 AM)

So in 3113 B.C. the Mayans predicted that the world would go though a 5,125 year cycle before the sun would cause such devastation that no life could survive.
Ummm, someone should have told the Mayans that the earth is only 6K years old. I mean, those jerks were way off!
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 7:45 AM)

How does any of this fit in with your faith or no faith? IMO... it has nothing to do with it. If they are saying that the galaxy is set to destruct on that day, your faith can not change it.
I think we can all agree that the rapture will transpire before 2012, so there's that.
timwakefield
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 7:50 AM
QUOTE (rjkdb8 @ Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 10:35 AM)

Heh.
Won't your face be red when the world ends in 2012!
Burnt red by the fires of Hell, that is.
crowTrobot
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 9:46 AM
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 6:45 AM)

Does this mean they are good at predicting the end of the world?
it means some people like to make money off the gullable by sensationalizing nonsense.
HollywoodAFD
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 9:50 AM
QUOTE (crowTrobot @ Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 11:46 AM)

it means some people like to make money off the gullable by sensationalizing nonsense.
The Mayans?
crowTrobot
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 11:14 AM
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 9:50 AM)

The Mayans?
the authors of the mystic/new age spiritual-type websites and books responsible for spreading the misleading unscientific claims in your OP.
HollywoodAFD
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 11:30 AM
QUOTE (crowTrobot @ Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 1:14 PM)

the authors of the mystic/new age spiritual-type websites and books responsible for spreading the misleading unscientific claims in your OP.
Serious question.... can you explain the "misleading unscientific claims"?
Can you direct me somewhere that has a different interpretation of what the Mayans were saying?
I'm curious.
pezeveng
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 1:56 PM
Do you believe the Mayans?
They had a very precise understanding of our solar system's cycles and believed that these cycles coincided with our spiritual and collective consciousness. The Mayans knew that our sun every so often synchronized with the central galaxy and from this central galaxy received a spark of light which causes the sun to shine more intensely producing solar flares and changes in the sun's magnetic field. They say that this happens every 5,125 years and also that this causes a displacement in the earths rotation, and because of this movement great catastrophes would be produced. Makes sense I guess.
So in 3113 B.C. the Mayans predicted that the world would go though a 5,125 year cycle before the sun would cause such devastation that no life could survive.
I'm still not sure how I stand on all this but there is some pretty interesting stuff on that calendar. For instance...The Mayans prophesied that the start of the last 13 year period would be marked by a solar eclipse on August 11, 1999. They made this prophecy in 3113 BC...and yes...there was a solar eclipse on that exact date.
My question would be concerning the translation of this calendar. There's no way it says August 11, 1999 because there was no "august" in 3113 BC.
I would think it probably says X number of days from day Y ....yada yada...
Anyhoooo... I digress
Does this mean they are good at predicting the end of the world? No... but it means they have a pretty good understanding of the solar system which they claim is the reason the world will end in 2012.
How does any of this fit in with your faith or no faith? IMO... it has nothing to do with it. If they are saying that the galaxy is set to destruct on that day, your faith can not change it.
Its kinda long but I guess I can use this as my new pick up line in 2012.
navybuttons
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 3:05 PM
who here speaks mayan and can translate that they prophesied that the world would end in 2012?
isn't it just that their calendar ends on that date?
if i understood eclipses and made my own calendar i could predict two things too: eclipses and when my calendar would end.
Dirtydutch
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 3:33 PM
QUOTE (navybuttons @ Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 3:05 PM)

if i understood eclipses and made my own calendar i could predict two things too: eclipses and when my calendar would end.
If you had a time machine, you could be a leading scientist/God. Actually, if you had a time machine, you would probably be those things in this era as well...
crowTrobot
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 4:10 PM
QUOTE (navybuttons @ Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 3:05 PM)

isn't it just that their calendar ends on that date?
yes. it's just the end of one of their calendar cycles. nothing indicates they thought the
world was ending when the current calendar ran out.
Balloon guy
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 4:36 PM
Just in case I am selling end of the world insurance, $500 per person, and should the world end in 2012, you will receive a $1,000,000.00 check and a free case of sun screen SPCF 1400
If the world does not end then you will receive a nice card thanking you for doing business with;
Strategic Underwriters Consolidated Kansas Enterprise Receivership.
Sal Paradise
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 5:34 PM
god I hope there's zombies. please, PLEASE let there be zombies.
nutzbuster
Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 10:25 PM
to every response so far...
.
BigDMcGee
Friday, January 9th, 2009, 4:47 AM
IF you're buying into this 2012 nonsense, you're dumb as a sack of hammers.
KramitDaToad
Friday, January 9th, 2009, 5:56 AM
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Friday, January 9th, 2009, 12:47 PM)

IF you start a post regarding this 2012 nonsense, you're dumb as a sack of hammers.
effed your pee
BigDMcGee
Friday, January 9th, 2009, 6:09 AM
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Friday, January 9th, 2009, 5:47 AM)

IF you start a thread this 2012 nonsense, you're dumb as a sack of hammers.
effed your eff my pee
HollywoodAFD
Friday, January 9th, 2009, 6:12 AM
It may be as silly as the whole Y2k thing.... I was just wondering what other peoples take on it was.
A lot of people think they know what it is but really don't.
I'm not saying the Mayans are right nor am I saying that I believe all the interpretations of the calendar.
It is more complex than "their calendar just ends" though.
The one thing that is fascinating to me is that a culture could be as in tuned and knowledgeable about the solar system in such a primitive time.
I guess they didn't have shit else to do though right? No boss cracking the whip, nagging wife, teenage kid wanting $500 to go shopping with friends.
Nope.... just lay around and look at the stars.
KramitDaToad
Friday, January 9th, 2009, 8:04 AM
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Friday, January 9th, 2009, 2:09 PM)

effed your eff my pee
Much better. That's what I was trying to say

Want a hammer?
BigDMcGee
Friday, January 9th, 2009, 8:09 AM
QUOTE (KramitDaToad @ Friday, January 9th, 2009, 9:04 AM)

Much better. That's what I was trying to say

Want a hammer?
well, if I had one, I'd hammer in the morning.
LongLiveYorke
Friday, January 9th, 2009, 8:13 AM
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 9:45 AM)

Does this mean they are good at predicting the end of the world? No... but it means they have a pretty good understanding of the solar system which they claim is the reason the world will end in 2012.
Well, I'd say modern man's understanding of the Solar System is way better than their understanding, and we say that the world won't end in 2012, so we win this round.
speedz99
Friday, January 9th, 2009, 8:26 AM
Didn't Negrodamus also predict the End coming in 2012? Was his prediction based on the Mayans' or just a coincidence?
Sal Paradise
Friday, January 9th, 2009, 8:26 AM
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Friday, January 9th, 2009, 7:47 AM)

IF you're buying into this 2012 nonsense, you're dumb as a sack of hammers.
whatever holmes, I'll be hanging ten on a sweet swell over top of your house with my assault rifle and canned goods strapped to my back that december, so guess who's gonna be as dumb as a sack of hammers then? hmm?
loogie
Friday, January 9th, 2009, 8:37 AM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Friday, January 9th, 2009, 9:26 AM)

whatever holmes, I'll be hanging ten on a sweet swell over top of your house with my assault rifle and canned goods strapped to my back that december, so guess who's gonna be as dumb as a sack of hammers then? hmm?
Awesome visual. We need a Beans toon of this.
HollywoodAFD
Friday, January 9th, 2009, 8:46 AM
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Friday, January 9th, 2009, 10:26 AM)

Didn't Negrodamus also predict the End coming in 2012? Was his prediction based on the Mayans' or just a coincidence?
I think his was more vague with the exact date... involved a comet hitting the Earth around that time.
timwakefield
Friday, January 9th, 2009, 2:32 PM
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Friday, January 9th, 2009, 11:46 AM)

I think his was more vague with the exact date... involved a comet hitting the Earth around that time.
He was one crazy nigga.
pauld22
Saturday, January 10th, 2009, 6:03 PM
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Friday, January 9th, 2009, 7:47 AM)

IF you're buying into this 2012 nonsense, you're dumb as a sack of hammers.
If the world is going to end in 2012 I am going to find the dude in your sig and bang the farts right out of him. Soon.
DCJ001
Saturday, January 10th, 2009, 6:24 PM
antistuff
Sunday, January 11th, 2009, 1:05 AM
they made a movie out of this shit are you kidding me?
HollywoodAFD
Sunday, January 11th, 2009, 6:05 AM
QUOTE (antistuff @ Sunday, January 11th, 2009, 3:05 AM)

they made a movie out of this shit are you kidding me?
Why would that surprise you?
'They' made a movie out of George W Bush's life, one about a guy who makes a suit out of iron and flies around, and even one about Batman.
speedz99
Sunday, January 11th, 2009, 10:27 AM
QUOTE (antistuff @ Sunday, January 11th, 2009, 2:05 AM)

they made a movie out of this shit are you kidding me?
It's really no different from the dozens of other "end of the world" movies. Comets, global warming, etc...
HollywoodAFD
Sunday, January 11th, 2009, 11:22 AM
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Sunday, January 11th, 2009, 12:27 PM)

It's really no different from the dozens of other "end of the world" movies. Comets, global warming, etc...
and Zombies !
Speed Limit
Sunday, January 11th, 2009, 11:22 PM
The Mayans actually have the exact date of Dec. 21st, 2012.
There is some more facts (or what have you) from this crazy website:
http://www.13moon.com/prophecy%20page.htm
antistuff
Monday, January 12th, 2009, 5:17 AM
im still thinking about the fact that they are making a movie about this and its still pissing me off.
i watched the trailer. tidal waves in the mountains of tibet? if i was a smarter i would figure it out, but im gonna guess you would need something like the size of the moon to slam into the indian ocean for that to happen.
solderz
Monday, January 12th, 2009, 1:02 PM
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Thursday, January 8th, 2009, 6:45 AM)

Do you believe the Mayans?
They had a very precise understanding of our solar system's cycles and believed that these cycles coincided with our spiritual and collective consciousness. The Mayans knew that our sun every so often synchronized with the central galaxy and from this central galaxy received a spark of light which causes the sun to shine more intensely producing solar flares and changes in the sun's magnetic field. They say that this happens every 5,125 years and also that this causes a displacement in the earths rotation, and because of this movement great catastrophes would be produced. Makes sense I guess.
So in 3113 B.C. the Mayans predicted that the world would go though a 5,125 year cycle before the sun would cause such devastation that no life could survive.
I'm still not sure how I stand on all this but there is some pretty interesting stuff on that calendar. For instance...The Mayans prophesied that the start of the last 13 year period would be marked by a solar eclipse on August 11, 1999. They made this prophecy in 3113 BC...and yes...there was a solar eclipse on that exact date.
My question would be concerning the translation of this calendar. There's no way it says August 11, 1999 because there was no "august" in 3113 BC.
I would think it probably says X number of days from day Y ....yada yada...
Anyhoooo... I digress
Does this mean they are good at predicting the end of the world? No... but it means they have a pretty good understanding of the solar system which they claim is the reason the world will end in 2012.
How does any of this fit in with your faith or no faith? IMO... it has nothing to do with it. If they are saying that the galaxy is set to destruct on that day, your faith can not change it.
lol.
lol
lol
If you believe in one fairy tale, might as well believe em all...
solderz
Monday, January 12th, 2009, 1:05 PM
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Friday, January 9th, 2009, 8:26 AM)

Didn't Negrodamus also predict the End coming in 2012? Was his prediction based on the Mayans' or just a coincidence?
Negrodamus always trumps the Mayans. Its a rule in the ancient version of Rock-Paper-Scissors (Roe Sham bo). Negrodamus beats Mayans, Mushrooms beat Negrodamus, and Maynas beat mushrooms.
timwakefield
Monday, January 12th, 2009, 3:49 PM
Listen, if we can't take ancient predictions from a savage people who lacked real scientific understanding as an accurate prediction, then who
can we believe?
Next you'll tell me these guys got it wrong too.
BigDMcGee
Wednesday, January 14th, 2009, 1:43 AM
QUOTE (antistuff @ Monday, January 12th, 2009, 5:17 AM)

im still thinking about the fact that they are making a movie about this and its still pissing me off.
i watched the trailer. tidal waves in the mountains of tibet? if i was a smarter i would figure it out, but im gonna guess you would need something like the size of the moon to slam into the indian ocean for that to happen.
Oh man, that movie is going to be hysterical.. the same Director did " the day after tommorrow, and there's this scene where the people out run cold.. as in the tempature state. It's fcking awesome.
Sal Paradise
Wednesday, January 14th, 2009, 5:12 AM
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, January 14th, 2009, 4:43 AM)

Oh man, that movie is going to be hysterical.. the same Director did " the day after tommorrow, and there's this scene where the people out run cold.. as in the tempature state. It's fcking awesome.
wait, won't it be the exact same movie? I mean, exactly the same?
god I hope so!
BigDMcGee
Wednesday, January 14th, 2009, 7:40 AM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Wednesday, January 14th, 2009, 5:12 AM)

wait, won't it be the exact same movie? I mean, exactly the same?
god I hope so!
It will basically be, I imagine the details of the earth's distruction will be different.. ( some how global warming starts a "superstorm" in DATM, which brings on an ice age... don't ask me)
HollywoodAFD
Wednesday, January 14th, 2009, 8:43 AM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Wednesday, January 14th, 2009, 7:12 AM)

wait, won't it be the exact same movie? I mean, exactly the same?
god I hope so!
But with Zombies
Balloon guy
Wednesday, January 14th, 2009, 5:16 PM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Wednesday, January 14th, 2009, 5:12 AM)

wait, won't it be the exact same movie? I mean, exactly the same?
god I hope so!
Cool, then Mexico will save us.
I can relax now
The Walrus
Friday, January 16th, 2009, 6:52 AM
I think mr Al Gore will be sad when he reads this topic.. so much
research and media attention for awareness of global conditions
that will deteriorate etc. etc. ..
At least we can stop worrying about all of that now and start thinking
about making a big pink bow around the earth so god will recognise our
cuteness and we will all go to my little pony - land where our virgins will be awaiting us , and lets
hope to god they won't charge 3,8m$ like that cutiepie i read about in DN blog today.
On a serious note , even IF all this maya fantasy stuff is true , it won't change a
damn thing. If it's happening it's happening whether we want it or not.. and i doubt
it would be smart to change anything just because the maya's wrote some stuff down 5xxx years ago.
Not to diminish their civilization which was clearly very sophisticated and far ahead of their time.
Ahwell i remember this kind of stuff was a huge hype in the year 1999 too when there were predictions
of the earth ending or jesus christ returning ( christian believes ) in the year 2000.. and ofcourse
when that didn't happen they moved the prediction along to 01-01-01 .. or something similar..
I think when the time comes that the earth will be destroyed or "god" will return noone will see
it coming.
Mygaud
Wednesday, January 21st, 2009, 11:39 PM
Hollywoodafd I agree with you. I find the topic of old prophecy very interesting, especially mayan and nostradamus. It's incredible how accurate they were, despite what the cynics rationalize about hits and misses.
HollywoodAFD
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 7:49 AM
QUOTE (The Walrus @ Friday, January 16th, 2009, 8:52 AM)

Ahwell i remember this kind of stuff was a huge hype in the year 1999 too when there were predictions
of the earth ending or jesus christ returning ( christian believes ) in the year 2000.. and ofcourse
when that didn't happen they moved the prediction along to 01-01-01 .. or something similar..
Y2K had nothing to do with Jesus returning.
The Walrus
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 11:52 AM
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 4:49 PM)

Y2K had nothing to do with Jesus returning.
http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/14229.htmJust have a look around , there were plenthy of theories and interpretations that Jesus would return in the year 2000.
loogie
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 12:12 PM
QUOTE (Mygaud @ Wednesday, January 21st, 2009, 11:39 PM)

Hollywoodafd I agree with you. I find the topic of old prophecy very interesting, especially mayan and nostradamus. It's incredible how accurate they were, despite what the cynics rationalize about hits and misses.
Who predicted this would ever happen?
HollywoodAFD
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 12:41 PM
QUOTE (The Walrus @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 1:52 PM)

http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/14229.htmJust have a look around , there were plenthy of theories and interpretations that Jesus would return in the year 2000.
It's obvious you didn't even read the article you linked to, troll.
QUOTE (loogie @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 2:12 PM)

Who predicted this would ever happen?
First time for everything!
Now if I can just get BigD to have beers with me one day..... who knows.
The Walrus
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 4:28 PM
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 9:41 PM)

It's obvious you didn't even read the article you linked to, troll.
Quite obvious u don't look any further than ur bloody nose, trying to be right all the time
just for the sake of being right.. pathetic if u ask me.
Oh.. calling me a troll again, it.. it.. just hurts sooo muchhh, doesn't get old at all!
HollywoodAFD
Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 5:28 PM
Worst fake account ever.
Went from Dutch to English.
oooops.
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