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jmbreslin
Please critique.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha Hi/Lo, $0.10 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (SB) ($13.90)
BB ($3.95)
UTG ($9.10)
MP1 ($10.25)
MP2 ($10)
CO ($5.90)
Button ($8)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5, J, 4, 3
1 fold, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Button calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.50) A, 2, 7 (5 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50, 2 folds, Button calls $0.50

Turn: ($2) A (3 players)
Hero bets $2, BB raises to $3.35 (All-In), Button raises to $7.40 (All-In), Hero calls $5.40

River: ($20.15) 6 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $20.15 | Rake: $2
David_Nicoson
I don't really know PLO/8, so I'm answering to learn.

That's a pretty junky hand, even in good position. Fold preflop.

After you bet the turn, I think you're right to call. Yeah, you might very well be splitting the low and drawing dead for the high. I think you're priced in with the nut low and protection.

I might bet less than pot on the turn. I dunno.
rvrchsrhtr
QUOTE (jmbreslin @ Monday, December 22nd, 2008, 9:47 PM) *
Please critique.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha Hi/Lo, $0.10 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (SB) ($13.90)
BB ($3.95)
UTG ($9.10)
MP1 ($10.25)
MP2 ($10)
CO ($5.90)
Button ($8)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5, J, 4, 3
1 fold, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Button calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.50) A, 2, 7 (5 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50, 2 folds, Button calls $0.50

Turn: ($2) A (3 players)
Hero bets $2, BB raises to $3.35 (All-In), Button raises to $7.40 (All-In), Hero calls $5.40

River: ($20.15) 6 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $20.15 | Rake: $2


Yeah, after you bet pot on the turn you have to call considering your opponents stack sizes IMO. I think I would check the turn and "maybe" dump it if that same action follows. depending on your opponents image and playing style. Have you seen them make the smooth call with the lo then charge ahead to represent the high style of plays or are they pretty straightforward players? P.S. I don't mind the limp from the SB, but yeah I def would try not to get tied to the hand unless I flopped huge. I like the flop bet too btw
antistuff
preflop is meh.

this hand demonstrates why im almost certain that playing the .10 game on full tilt is not beatable. the hand got raked 20 big blinds. that makes playing this board to the felt three handed not so profitable (normally you should profit in this situation, although not much).

if you are going to play this low play on stars.
jmbreslin
I know PF is meh but with the pot odds I was basically playing it to hit A2 and and only A2. I figured the nut low with 34 would be hidden enough that the risk of being quartered would be greatly reduced.

The part of the hand I'm mainly concerned about is the turn. With the board pairing there, especially an Ace, my chances of taking the high if I hit a straight is diminished, which increases the likelihood that I'm playing for half. Suppose I check the turn, BB pots it, and Button pot-raises - could you fold the nut low there assuming that you're only playing for half and there is a small risk of getting quartered?

As for the rake, I hadn't considered that when I switched games. I was playing .25-.50 Stud-8 and then .25-.50 LO8 to clear bonus, but when I got frustrated with both I decided to try PLO8 again. Since I'm not rolled to play PLO8 at higher stakes, I'm stuck. That being said, wouldn't the benefit of rakeback offset the higher rake on FT?
antistuff
QUOTE (jmbreslin @ Tuesday, December 23rd, 2008, 9:21 PM) *
I know PF is meh but with the pot odds I was basically playing it to hit A2 and and only A2. I figured the nut low with 34 would be hidden enough that the risk of being quartered would be greatly reduced.

The part of the hand I'm mainly concerned about is the turn. With the board pairing there, especially an Ace, my chances of taking the high if I hit a straight is diminished, which increases the likelihood that I'm playing for half. Suppose I check the turn, BB pots it, and Button pot-raises - could you fold the nut low there assuming that you're only playing for half and there is a small risk of getting quartered?

As for the rake, I hadn't considered that when I switched games. I was playing .25-.50 Stud-8 and then .25-.50 LO8 to clear bonus, but when I got frustrated with both I decided to try PLO8 again. Since I'm not rolled to play PLO8 at higher stakes, I'm stuck. That being said, wouldn't the benefit of rakeback offset the higher rake on FT?


i don't know and i haven't played 20k hands of .05/.10 to find out. i do feel sure enough where i would bet a substantial amount of money against most players being able to beat it
rvrchsrhtr
QUOTE (jmbreslin @ Tuesday, December 23rd, 2008, 9:21 PM) *
I know PF is meh but with the pot odds I was basically playing it to hit A2 and and only A2. I figured the nut low with 34 would be hidden enough that the risk of being quartered would be greatly reduced.

The part of the hand I'm mainly concerned about is the turn. With the board pairing there, especially an Ace, my chances of taking the high if I hit a straight is diminished, which increases the likelihood that I'm playing for half. Suppose I check the turn, BB pots it, and Button pot-raises - could you fold the nut low there assuming that you're only playing for half and there is a small risk of getting quartered?

As for the rake, I hadn't considered that when I switched games. I was playing .25-.50 Stud-8 and then .25-.50 LO8 to clear bonus, but when I got frustrated with both I decided to try PLO8 again. Since I'm not rolled to play PLO8 at higher stakes, I'm stuck. That being said, wouldn't the benefit of rakeback offset the higher rake on FT?



YES...even with two players in the pot you are most likely playing for half and getting less than 2:1 on the amount you need to put in compared to the payoff. That's not even factoring in the chance of getting quartered
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