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AimHigher
Villain has been super active at the table.

His stats are 51/44 over 45 hands, and he has a 3-Bet percentage of 25%.

Basically, this is about the 4th time since I've sat down he's 3-bet someone. In an earlier hand he just flatted a 3-bet from me OOP.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($25.10)
BB ($67.70)
UTG ($29.60)
Hero (MP) ($28.85)
Button ($32.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, J
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, BB raises to $3, Hero raises to $8, BB raises to $67.70 (All-In), Hero??

Thoughts about the hand in general?

I have $20 behind when he ships.
Giggidy
You shouldnt be 4betting unless you know what you're going to do if they ship - you 4bet if you think they're gonna call with worse or ship with worse, or as a bluff
AimHigher
QUOTE (Giggidy @ Wednesday, November 26th, 2008, 8:50 PM) *
You shouldnt be 4betting unless you know what you're going to do if they ship - you 4bet if you think they're gonna call with worse or ship with worse, or as a bluff


Yeah. I'm fine with this logic. I did actually stack off but I didn't feel particularly great about it. I'm 100% sure I'm taking this line with AQ.
Giggidy
QUOTE (AimHigher @ Wednesday, November 26th, 2008, 9:12 PM) *
Yeah. I'm fine with this logic. I did actually stack off but I didn't feel particularly great about it. I'm 100% sure I'm taking this line with AQ.


I'd play it the same
NoSup4U
QUOTE (Giggidy @ Wednesday, November 26th, 2008, 1:50 PM) *
You shouldnt be 4betting unless you know what you're going to do if they ship - you 4bet if you think they're gonna call with worse or ship with worse, or as a bluff


This.

If you're going to 4bet him with a hand like AJ, then I'd only do it planning to call this monkey's shove. But given how easily he gets his money in, I would probably just call his 3bet here (which is something I almost never advocate) and then feel comfortable stacking off if I hit tp.

Mark
NoBBiR
QUOTE (AimHigher @ Wednesday, November 26th, 2008, 2:12 PM) *
Yeah. I'm fine with this logic. I did actually stack off but I didn't feel particularly great about it. I'm 100% sure I'm taking this line with AQ.


If you have AQ against this guy, I would super-snap call. AJ is a bit more marginal, but if the guy is that active and threebetting that much, I think this isn't a terrible spot to ship it in.
Sheiky
There's not many players on FTP $25NL that I would feel comfortable 4-bet/calling AI with AJo. I mean, even if they're 3-betting a lot, over 45 hands it's so so hard to get an accurate handle on whether they're 4-betting light or are just 3-bet/folding loads. Before I commit to 4-bet/calling i'd want to see him showdown a hand that makes it clear it will be the best play.

I'd just fold/call depending on how out of line I think he's getting.
sjm20
Any thoughts on the 4-bet being kind of smallish - or is this standard?

[x] cash game 4 betting noob
tskillz187
QUOTE (sjm20 @ Friday, November 28th, 2008, 12:01 AM) *
Any thoughts on the 4-bet being kind of smallish - or is this standard?

[x] cash game 4 betting noob


That's a really good sized 4bet. Generally you want to 4bet small so that you can 4bet bluff (something you should never do at ($25nl, $50nl, or probably $100nl) and still fold to a shove, it allows you to 4bet big hands and bluffs, to balance your range. Plus once the 4th bet gets in there, people are making a big mistake calling with stuff like KQss, even if they are getting 2.5:1 on the call pf.
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