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slt1der
EDIT: Bleh on the title too. Can't correct the subject title now.

Villain is 80/12/1.57 over roughly 50 hands or so. I played this hand so badly that I am still bleeeeh.

Advice on all streets appreciated.

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): $10.00
CO: $8.25
BTN: $7.25
SB: $15.05
BB: $10.00
UTG: $3.50

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with A icon_suit_diamond.gif Q icon_suit_club.gif
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, SB calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.80) 9 icon_suit_spade.gif 3 icon_suit_spade.gif 6 icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.80) 7 icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.80) A icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2.30, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds
No_Neck
i really think you need to call this river. I mean I don't hate it but I don't love it. Against a player like this I think he is going to be make big bets with bluffs thinking he has too. Also he called in the SB so his range is really really wide here.

What range are you putting him on?



TrueAce13
I think you have to call unless you put him on AK
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (slt1der @ Monday, November 17th, 2008, 11:18 PM) *
EDIT: Bleh on the title too. Can't correct the subject title now.

Villain is 80/12/1.57 over roughly 50 hands or so. I played this hand so badly that I am still bleeeeh.

Advice on all streets appreciated.

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): $10.00
CO: $8.25
BTN: $7.25
SB: $15.05
BB: $10.00
UTG: $3.50

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with A icon_suit_diamond.gif Q icon_suit_club.gif
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, SB calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.80) 9 icon_suit_spade.gif 3 icon_suit_spade.gif 6 icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.80) 7 icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.80) A icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2.30, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds


I've never called in this spot and not seen the backdoor flush.
JaNnN
I think this is a good fold. Either has a crappy 2 pair or a backdoor flush most of the time and he is probably hoping you cannot lay your ace away if you have one.

If the bet in the end was smaller I'd def call here but why take the risk in a cashgame if you can wait for better spots.

SGFULTON83
Easy fold, what do you think he would bet 2.30 into .80 with besides the floosh?
Chet Chetterson
Shouldn't there be a C-bet the majority of the time on the flop, since it's blind vs. blind and you have position?
slt1der
Yes, there should've been a c-bet the majority of the time, but because it's a calling station, I didn't think it would be a good idea since he would be uncapable of laying down any mid to top pair. Maybe my thinking is wrong here.
No_Neck
QUOTE (slt1der @ Tuesday, November 18th, 2008, 2:18 AM) *
EDIT: Bleh on the title too. Can't correct the subject title now.

Villain is 80/12/1.57 over roughly 50 hands or so.



you guys are on crack if you are folding top pair to this clown IMO
No_Neck
i would be you would see spades more than hearts.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Thursday, November 20th, 2008, 2:47 AM) *
i would be you would see spades more than hearts.


Really? There's no action on the flop or turn. Spades might get fruity somewhere along the line here I think.
No_Neck
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Thursday, November 20th, 2008, 10:39 AM) *
Really? There's no action on the flop or turn. Spades might get fruity somewhere along the line here I think.



your right it was late I was confused, but I still call here


Folding to a 82/12/1 or whatever is silly.
Jariso13
I think calling or folding will depend on your read on the guy and how he has been playing. Is he up or down money? Against a normal player i prob fold here. I would have had to see this guy pull off other weird plays to think my aq is good here.
Solar
I just call. Villain could flip anything here. true I feels silly when he shows me two hearts, but i think he has crap more than half the time.
NoSup4U
I would call here for two reasons:

We probably have the best hand some percentage of the time but not a ton
If we don't, we find out cheaply what a huge overbet on the river means from this villain, which is SO key imo to know about people.

Mark
jmbreslin
A couple of things:

1) What are his call open and fold to CB percentages?

2) When people bluff in micro stakes cash games, they usually do so on the flop or turn. Massive bets on the river are almost always big hands trying to look like bluffs or trying to squeeze more money when the pot is small. The times he makes that bet with the flush or AK greatly, greatly outnumber the times he does so with a bluff or a weaker hand.
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