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kikijiki
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MP ($20.45)
CO ($31.55)
Button ($59.15)
Hero (SB) ($46.80)
BB ($38.35)
UTG ($25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 3
UTG raises to $1, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Button raises to $4

Total pot: $3.35

Fold or not? Since he raised that mutch he is squeezing or has a high pair. If I hit a set 1/11 hands I can probably take his whole stack witch is more than 3.75*11, but I have 2 ppl behind me yet to act. What is the correct play here. Also UTG is rather passive and MP is very aggressive. Button has rerised preflop a couple of times in the last hands, but was tight overall.

My play - fold.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (kikijiki @ Thursday, November 13th, 2008, 7:45 AM) *
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($20.45)
CO ($31.55)
Button ($59.15)
Hero (SB) ($46.80)
BB ($38.35)
UTG ($25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 3
UTG raises to $1, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Button raises to $4

Total pot: $3.35

Fold or not? Since he raised that mutch he is squeezing or has a high pair. If I hit a set 1/11 hands I can probably take his whole stack witch is more than 3.75*11, but I have 2 ppl behind me yet to act. What is the correct play here. Also UTG is rather passive and MP is very aggressive. Button has rerised preflop a couple of times in the last hands, but was tight overall.

My play - fold.


I think this is a fold. There's not enough implied odds HU (this has been discussed ad nauseum lately, search simo's posts), and we're not closing action, raising is unthinkable, and if we do get everyone flatting PF and in the hand to get the odds AND hit our set, we still stand a good chance of getting stacked playing this hand 4 ways on more than half the boards we'll see roll out.
mrpossum
QUOTE (kikijiki @ Thursday, November 13th, 2008, 10:45 PM) *
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($20.45)
CO ($31.55)
Button ($59.15)
Hero (SB) ($46.80)
BB ($38.35)
UTG ($25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 3
UTG raises to $1, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Button raises to $4

Total pot: $3.35

Fold or not? Since he raised that mutch he is squeezing or has a high pair. If I hit a set 1/11 hands I can probably take his whole stack witch is more than 3.75*11, but I have 2 ppl behind me yet to act. What is the correct play here. Also UTG is rather passive and MP is very aggressive. Button has rerised preflop a couple of times in the last hands, but was tight overall.

My play - fold.


In the event if you call and get re-raised from one of the 2 players behind you it puts you in a tough spot. I wouldn't call unless you end the betting round.
Lee_LightsOut_B
This situation is a common problem with playing small pocket pairs facing an early raise and a button reraise .... when you see your cards you need to have a plan from the time action starts suchs as for the dollar I will flat call and take a flop .... if facing raise i ditch the hand etc .... Given the actions and the reads i say cut the hand loose and wait for a better spot
SGFULTON83
I fold this hand in the SB facing raise and re-raise. Maybe position would make a difference here, but with original raiser still to act its still a tough spot.
Sheiky
This is really easy fold I think
simo_8ball
Instasnapfold. Not close.

In position, closing the action, it would be a closer decision.
albertoflamingo
Fold, it's gonna be pretty hard to get his stack since we're OOP here and there's no guarantee that we'll get his stack because he can be reraising a pretty wide range from the button. I probably fold this in position as well, it's just gonna be very hard to make money with the hand here.
Dictius
Being out of position is what makes this an easy fold.
RickyG033
Def Fold because OOP
babylondonks
QUOTE (albertoflamingo @ Friday, November 14th, 2008, 5:29 AM) *
Fold, it's gonna be pretty hard to get his stack since we're OOP here and there's no guarantee that we'll get his stack because he can be reraising a pretty wide range from the button. I probably fold this in position as well, it's just gonna be very hard to make money with the hand here.


This is pretty much what I think. The fact that we have 192BB effective stacks I think does swing it a bit in the other direction. If the 3better is like a 7/6 or something then I'd be more inclined to call than if he's capable of a squeeze.

IP I'm probably more inclined to call, but I find it hard to argue with albert biggrin.gif
HollywoodAFD
I think it's a no brainer fold.

Small pairs PF with at least 2 players who have something is a weak hand.
Just fold and let them fight it out.
ship
what simo said

snap fold
not close
fighter
I think this is a no brain fold up to pocket 99's.

I have no idea what to do in this situation with pocket tens.

Sens-Eh
fold

AINEC
NoSup4U
QUOTE (Sheiky @ Thursday, November 13th, 2008, 10:08 AM) *
This is really easy fold I think

1nausp1c1ous
OK, so the unanimous vote is for folding here and I agree 100%. Let's just pretend we had 9's here instead, what would be everyone's line? I find mid-pockets to be my toughest hands to play.
NoSup4U
QUOTE (1nausp1c1ous @ Monday, November 24th, 2008, 5:22 PM) *
OK, so the unanimous vote is for folding here and I agree 100%. Let's just pretend we had 9's here instead, what would be everyone's line? I find mid-pockets to be my toughest hands to play.

QUOTE (Sheiky @ Thursday, November 13th, 2008, 10:08 AM) *
This is really easy fold I think

mtdesmoines
QUOTE (fighter @ Saturday, November 22nd, 2008, 5:06 AM) *
I think this is a no brain fold up to pocket 99's.
I have no idea what to do in this situation with pocket tens.


QUOTE (1nausp1c1ous @ Monday, November 24th, 2008, 5:22 PM) *
OK, so the unanimous vote is for folding here and I agree 100%. Let's just pretend we had 9's here instead, what would be everyone's line? I find mid-pockets to be my toughest hands to play.


I think if we aren't closing the action and don't have position, we're in a tough spot with a lot of hands, even up to JJ and possibly QQ.

Here's some "now what" situations. So let's say we play 99 and the flop is:

J32
A78
any sooted flop
KTJ
8T6
QT6
JJ4
AK9
KQ9
KJ9
TJQ

... and there's heavy action?

Point is we HAVE to hit the flop so hard to get our chips in on the flop, because one thing is certain: with the PF action, we're probably going to see a shove on the flop.

It really helps to know the 3 betting ranges of the players in this hand.
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