XXEddie
Sunday, November 30th, 2008, 12:15 PM
QUOTE (dscoot @ Sunday, November 30th, 2008, 3:22 AM)

I see 0 reason to shove the flop. If hes got a worse hand, he aint calling. If hes got a better hand, your out. Yeah your giving him a free card by calling the flop, but only a pp can overtake you on the turn. Two broadway cards can not take the lead on the turn. Plus u learn more info with his turn play. He knows u havent defended much so if u call his flop he likely wont bluff you off your weak ace on the turn. So if he comes firing again on the turn u could even fold assuming he has you beat, and live to fight another day. If he checks the turn assume you have the best hand, and value play it accordingly.
Um, no. Villain has been raising Hero's BB from the SB on other previous occasions, so you need to widen villain's range a lot. His range includes WAY more that Ax, PPs, Broadway cards. It is very possible that he has 8x, 5x, 76, a diamond draw.....
I probably just shovel this in preflop if he has been raising like this. But, on this flop, I shove too. You have already taken in 192k, which will separate you from the 2 other short stacks. You're hand is very vounerable against a range as wide as the villians too get greedy and try to double up with top pair and a 3 kicker.
edit-and we can easily be called here by worser hands, more specially flush draws and 76. Villain is getting almost excatly 2-1 on a call.