Who do you guys see winning this thing?

Right now, I'd rank them like this.

1. Colt McCoy
2. Javon Ringer
3. Sam Bradford
4. Tim Tebow


Heres hoping Timmy Heisman can pull off the repeat.

Javon Ringer isn't even the best back in the Big Ten. He's durable, not outstanding.

McCoy, Chase Daniel, Crabtree.

I agree about Ringer, but right now his stats warrant a place on the list.

Daniel's three interceptions cost him a place on my list.

Crabtree is good, really good. But he isnt a better college player than Tebow, or more valuable than Bradford.

Beanie Wells.


Just kidding. I'd say McCoy is definitely the front runner right now, with Bradford just behind him. I agree with DDIDM that Ringer is a by-product of the system they run at MSU.

McCoy as of right now

Even though Im a Horn... I gotta go with Teeeeeeebow

He really is. I mean, it's impressive how many carries he has..but both Wells and Greene are better RBs just in the Big Ten.

Greene has hit 100 yards every game this season and averages 6+ yards a carry, almost two more per carry than Ringer and is fifth in the nation overall.

Wells is obviously more talented, but injuries and the bungling offense have set him back a bit.

It's a shame he got hurt cuz he defnitely would have been a contender. He has one of the best stiff arms I've seen. He just knocks the defenders down. His size, speed, and strenth make him a threat every time he touches the ball. I know the Buckeyes got their asses kicked against USC but I would love to see a rematch of that game with a healthy Beanie and TP as he QB.

With the way our D played in that game, we would still lose by 2 touchdowns at least.

lol? the one off of Saunders was a good pass and desperation at the end counting against him? Pretty rough IMO, he threw the one bad, but so be it.

booger daniel never gets that movie!!

that would make him a big star!!

and im gonna run him out of the business!!

But the game would have been so different. There is a big difference in the way the D plays when the score is 21-21 instead of 21-3.

Colts got this thing locked up as long as Texas doesnt lose.

Now, what do you think. I'm a Gator and I have to go with McCoooooooooooooooooooooy!

Shonn Greene.

Knoshown Moreno doesnt suck either LOL


he had a couple not-spectacular games but other than that he has been a beast.....def the best RB this year, but imo a QB will get, prolly out of the big12

McCoy or Tebow, still.

1. Tebow
2. Crabtree
3. McCoy
4. Bradford

1. Tebow
2. Crabtree
3. Harrell
4. McCoy

3 & 4 is a toss up IMO and I give the nod to the winner last night.

Harrell
Tebow
Crabtree
McCoy
Bradford

McCoy
Harrell
Bradford
Tebow


guess I don't get all the Tebow hype.

He is portrayed as way better of a passer than he actually is, but he can beat you both ways which is what makes him great IMO.

You have to take into account who is posting those lists.

Do you not think Tebow is the best ALL-around QB out of those in contention? I am the first to wonder how Tebow is praised as such a great passer when he seems unable to make the easiest throws sometimes, but as far as leading his team, being able to beat you with his arm and legs I think he is ahead of the other 2 QB's in this discussion. As for Crabtree, sorry the QB is what the voters like although he is probably the best athlete of the group.

I don't think Tebow would be in the top 1/2 of the Big 12 QB's if you're looking at them as drop back pocket passers. Tebow brings a different skill set that you have to factor in, but he isn't putting up the numbers like he was last year and he did let his team lose at home to an unranked opponent.

Is he in the discussion... sure. Should he be #1 or 2 on the lists. I don't think so.

Crabtree's game winning catch the other night was one hell of a Heisman moment. I don't think there is another receiver in the country who makes that catch over two defenders gets hit like that and still keeps his balance enough to spin and go for the TD. It was a spectacular play at the very end of the biggest game of the season.

No one is a better college player than Tebow. No one.

How is Javon Ringer in the conversation and LeSean McCoy isn't? Ringer has 400 more yards in 2 more games... giving McCoy his average for those extra 2 games, he's less than 150 yards behind, has more TDs/game, almost a full yard per carry on Ringer... and although the Big East sucks, the Big Ten(11) isn't any better.

I disagree.

I don't even think he is the best QB in the SEC.

Crabtree is.




Javon Ringer isn't even the best running back in the Big Ten.

And the Big Ten is far superior to the Big East. Sorry.

Yea, I'd put him about 3rd.

If had a vote and it was due today...Michael Crabtree. Dude is flat out amazing.

like i said, tebow is the best.

1. Tebow
1a. Bradford

sec title game will determine the winner. if tebow is huge, its his.

QFT

Yeah..Tebow really came through against some strong competition yesterday.

Shonn Greene deserves an invite and the Doak Walker award.

You know I can't really disagree, probably the most consistent player in college football this year.

hard to say if this right. i think Tebow deserves it. but this thing is gonna be sextra close, Osmond close.

I'd vote Bradford 1, Tebow 2, McCoy 3, Crabtree 4.

tebow or mccoy

How the hell is Colt McCoy the Big 12 Player of the Year when he didn't make the AP All-Big 12 first team?!?!?!?

Looks about right.

I wish everyone (media, but not necessarily anyone specific on this board) when get their tongue out of Tim Tebow's crack. Its getting a little ridiculous. The guy's good. Great sometimes, but Heisman, this year? PLEASE!!! Spare me. The guy lost at home to Ole Miss for pete's sake. He won the SEC, but last time I checked he's got great weapons, and the SEC is down this year, especially compared to the Big 12. Now, lets look at the stats:

player A: 28 TD passing, 2 INT, 12 rushing TD: 40 total TD's
player B: 48 TD passing, 6 INT, 5 rushing TD: 53 total TD's
player C: 32 TD passing, 7 INT, 10 rushing TD: 42 total TD's, 78% completions

If I told you player B was Tebow, he would be a unanimous pick for Heisman. Why??? His name only. He's a great leader. Guess what, so are Bradford and McCoy, and they have the same records. The Tebow hype is all about the media gents. Use some common sense.

1st: Bradford
2nd: McCoy
3rd: Greene
4th: Tebow
5th: *tie* Harrell/Crabtree

You didn't mention that the SEC still plays defense and Big 12 did have a great year offensively/overall but not many teams play much defense in the Big 12. Also, Ole Miss really isn't that bad. I'm assuming that's Shonn Greene from Iowa as #3. I know he had a great year but seriously? If it is Shonn then don't bring up the quality of the conferences since the Big Ten isn't anything spectacular.

YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS.

Defenses in the Big-10 are far superior to the ones in the Big-12. Greene had a phenomenal year and unlike Ringer who got all the hype he actually showed up for big games. He should get an invite to the ceremony.

Or perhaps the offenses are just far inferior. Hard to say.

PSU put up 40+ a game.

One team, a conference does not make.

But 12 bad defenses do make a conference

Like I said, if those Big 12 defenses went up against the offenses of the big 10, the stats would look different. Just as if the big 10 defensese had to stop the Big 12 offenses.

Aren't you supposed to be supporting mancrush #729 in this thread?