the bulls are really playing well, ever since salmons joined the team things started moving in the right direction

Him and Miller have added some consistency. They are still an atrocious road team though, and will probably be out in 5-6 games in the first round against any of their potential opponents (obv). Now that they have Miller and Salmons it is a better time than ever to trade some combination of Noah/Thomas/Hinrich/Deng for a legit superstar (Bosh?)

I cannot even believe that game in Indiana tonight. That has to be one of the worst jobs closing out a game I've ever seen. They were up by seven with two minutes left and decide to run a seven seconds or less offense.

Also, the Bulls consistently have the worst last second play calling. It consists of tossing the ball into Gordon and him launching a fade-away 3-pointer.

The funny part is, on the Afternoon Saloon yesterday he said that was in fact the designed play. He said it had "worked in the past". Ok...because Gordon hits one lucky fadeaway over Bosh to send a game into overtime, that should be the play every time! After all, it worked once!

I think Vinny has actually made minor progress, they don't switch every pick anymore, and his sub patterns have improved greatly from the beginning of the year. However, his improvement takes him from clearly the worst coach in the league to somewhere in the bottom 5.

Also, I'm gonna go on record as saying this about Derrick Rose. He has more athletic ability and can make more athletic plays than any point guard, I'll say it, in the history of the league. There has never been a player like Derrick Rose when you combine all of his attributes.

That being said, he is an average passer, an average shooter, and a slightly above average on the ball defender, and a basically non-existent help defender. I don't think he'll ever be on the Chris Paul level and it probably won't be close. A top 5 point guard in the league that makes a few all star games sounds about right to me. Which is great. But to talk about him as the next big superstar in the league...I just don't think it's gonna happen.

He's still a rookie, give it a little time, he'll improve some things. What's amazing to me is what he's able to do, and only be a rookie. Wait till he gets a real coach, lol.

I'd also like to add....

LOL @ Beasley being the sure thing ROTY after the draft.

Agree on athletic ability and mostly agree on the rest. I think he's a better passer than you give him credit for and his shot has improved even though it still comes out flat. I'm pretty certain he will be a top 5 PG in the league and obviously a great piece for the franchise to build around.




The few times I have been able to see Beasley, I have actually been impressed. If Spoelstra played him more minutes I think he would be in the same conversation as Rose/Mayo/Westbrook/Lopez.

We'd rather have the Celtics right? I think so. But they look like they might get the 6 seed.

I'd rather have Boston than Clevelnd and would rather have Orlando than Boston. I'm pretty sure we will end up with the 6 seed. Philly plays Boston and @Cleveland to finish out the season. We finish with a game @Detroit and home against Toronto

if he got 35+ mins a game instead of 24 mins a game.....he would have been in the discussion. His 28/16 performance last night was awesome.

LOL at the the idea that Beasley was the sure ROY. Who said that? Maybe a Heat homer like me. I think people were split btw Rose/Beasley/Mayo AND Oden especially.

Yea, like I said earlier, every time I have seen Beasley I have been impressed, and I don't understand why he doesn't get more minutes.

I think I heard more people saying Oden would be the ROY than anybody else.

Beasley is the most offensively gifted player in this draft class....by far. Smooth jumper and he has a knack for finishing near the basket (being ambidextrous helps). But his defense is woeful....and his rebounding is inconsistent. He is getting better but Spolestra is a Riley disciple and Riley hates rookies and hates lapses on defense. So thats why Beasley has struggled to get minutes.

He kind of seems like Manny Ramirez sometimes.....total space cadet. His post-game interviews are already legendary on the Sunshine network. He makes you laugh. I like him and I think he could score 30 pts a game someday. But, gun to my head, I think Rose turns out to be a bit better.

Reminds me of Derrick Coleman.

worst case scenario, imo.

I mean talent wise/skill set, not necessarily end result.

I heard Oden a lot too, but when the Bulls were right about to get Rose, everyone around here especially was saying that Beasley or Oden would be ROY, and Rose would develop into the best player EVENTUALLY.



Anyway... I kinda think Cleveland <<<< Orlando < Boston. As far as having to matchup with the Bulls. KG isn't 100% and it doesn't seem like they've been playing their best lately. But Howard fully enjoys taking his frustration out on the Bulls. He called them out specifically. No thanks.

Bulls aren't getting out of the first round no matter who they play.

I mean I guess some people assumed that because Beasley put up 25/12 in college with ease. But if the Heat had the #1 pick, they would have taken Rose in a heartbeat. So I think most interested parties always thought Rose was the better player and this year confirmed that (for now....you never know I guess). But Beasley is a really good consolation prize. I could see him and Wade both averaging 25+ a game soon.

Agreed.

No Cleveland now which is good. From the other two you may as well flip a coin, they both have some flaws but are both a lot more talented than the Bulls.

Yeah the top 3 in the East are just way beyond the rest of the conference. Thats why it was so important that the Heat keep the 5 seed. Might get to see two rounds of playoffs that way.


At least the bulls look like they have a decent future again. Going into Detroit and winning was pretty clutch. I still hope Nocioni falls in a well.

God damnit.

I'm just hoping that this whole KG is healthy thing is BS.

They can beat the Bulls without KG.

And it sounds like they will have too...

Looks like Clevelands path to the finals was just made much easier.

Thing is, they can also lose to the Bulls without him.

i like the bulls in the series without kg. Chicago is playing good basketball and i don't think boston can do it without kg. this is the series im looking forward to the most.

Boston will beat the pitiful Bulls w/o Garnett.

You know they're 12-4 over the last 16 games right?

Exact same as Boston. Who they actually beat in there.

Apparently losing to a non playoff team at home when your fighting for playoff position constitutes playing well?

Yes

You have to be crazy or a big homer to think Chicago wins the series.

Never said they will, just that they at least have a better chance now.

No, but winning 12 of their previous 15 does.

Now, I don't think they'll win this series, but it was only a few months ago that this team was 18-27 and looked destined for the lottery. So to dismiss what they have done because of one bad loss to Toronto is kind of silly.

Well to be fair Boston without KG is probably a better matchup for them right now than Orlando.

Salmons is also hurt which, with Deng hurt, and Nocioni traded, leaves Tim Thomas as a big part of the rotation

and we all know what a big game player Tim Thomas has been his entire career

Yeah, I didn't know this until late yesterday. I didn't see the last couple games. Just results.

That's pretty crappy.

Care to reassess?

seriously. what a game by the kid. nice win by the young bulls team. there taking this series.

lol i just saw this. losing one game determines how good you are playing?

So many guys did it at different times. Rose for most of the game, then Gordon at the end of the 4th, and Thomas in OT. And Noah was fantastic on the other end and on the boards.

i'm thourougly ashamed that i thought the bulls should have taken Beasley last year. so ashamed.

HUUUUUUGE WIN!!!

Huge win indeed.. GL rest of the way, chaps.

For the most part, no.

But the performance today was one for the ages and is certainly a big step towards that superstardom.

Guy deserves it, too, and I really hope it happens for him. One of the best character guys I've ever seen.

give it another 2 seasons before you decide. Beasley has some serious upside. if he learns defense and gets the minutes because of it then i think that will be a better measuring stick. big guys tend to take longer to develop.

but ya, Rose was pretty damn sick. outside of the turnovers he played amazing at any standard.

if I didn't know any better I would have thought Ray Allen threw that game. I can't remember the last time he played that horribly. and HOW the fukk did pierce miss that final free throw!?

enjoy the win Bulls fans. Boston sucked monkey balls for the first half and missed a FT for the game after amazing efforts from Chicago. the Celtics may not go all the way but I still like them for the series.

Not sure what makes me look like more of an idiot...this, or saying that Calderon was near a Chris Paul level.

Noah has somehow transformed into a very solid NBA player. Quite the maturing year for him once he started to get minutes. Color me impressed.

The first 2 rounds of last year's playoffs come to mind. j/s

this for sure. But you weren't the only one.

Generally losing important games for playoff positioning to teams that are about to go play golf for the summer on your own court is pretty much the definition of a bad loss.