Besides me being a total donkey on the cash tables, what do you think are some of the diffences in the two? I have had a wonderful heater for about four months on tournaments but started playing cash again recently and find that my cash game is total crap.
Playing mainly 1/3 tables. Play 10/20 limit when they have it, which is only a couple of times a week. I do a little better there.
This really reminds me of a story of a guy that won the US open back in the 30's or 40's. A guy said to analyze his grip and such and write a book. He said he didn't know how he did it and after analyzing it he developed a huge slice and never had the same results again.
Anyone else had the same results or any reasoning?
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In a nutshell, deeper stacks. In a tournament you are rarely playing with 100BB+ stacks past the first couple of levels. Most of your decisions are made by the flop, whereas in a cash game there's more money in stacks to play on the turn and river.
Also, more tournament poker is played on tv than cash. So when fishes deposit online they flock more to the tournaments, since that's what they've seen on tv.
Also, more tournament poker is played on tv than cash. So when fishes deposit online they flock more to the tournaments, since that's what they've seen on tv.
QUOTE (SCS @ Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 6:36 PM) 
In a nutshell, deeper stacks. In a tournament you are rarely playing with 100BB+ stacks past the first couple of levels. Most of your decisions are made by the flop, whereas in a cash game there's more money in stacks to play on the turn and river.
Also, more tournament poker is played on tv than cash. So when fishes deposit online they flock more to the tournaments, since that's what they've seen on tv.
Also, more tournament poker is played on tv than cash. So when fishes deposit online they flock more to the tournaments, since that's what they've seen on tv.
This fish isn't going to online sites at all. I play live and do well in tournaments but suck big time online and in live cash.
I think your response is spot on with the stacks and such.
Thanks
Well, fish is a relative term. There are a lot of players that can beat 1/2NL live, but are considered fish in most online microstakes games.
QUOTE (SCS @ Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 9:13 PM)
Well, fish is a relative term. There are a lot of players that can beat 1/2NL live, but are considered fish in most online microstakes games.
I'm definately a lunker online and at 1/3 nl. It's just that I can't get over the dramatic difference in my transition from tournaments to cash. I was a pretty decent, not great, live 1/2nl player before but those days are gone.
Hopefully with the advice of posters like you and D, I might get back on track.
QUOTE (Paul Brevard @ Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 10:27 PM)
I'm definately a lunker online and at 1/3 nl. It's just that I can't get over the dramatic difference in my transition from tournaments to cash. I was a pretty decent, not great, live 1/2nl player before but those days are gone.
Hopefully with the advice of posters like you and D, I might get back on track.
Hopefully with the advice of posters like you and D, I might get back on track.
You're going to lose starting out. Just keep playing, and posting hands and hopefully you'll start winning. It takes a lot of experience and work.
FWIW, the difference is how patient you can be during a cash game IMO. With no blind increase, you can sit back and wait to pick up hands instead of thinking "I only have 12 BB, I have to pick up a hand in this range and shove." Also as stated, you play much deeper in cash games. This is when you see the PF raises up to 15-20 playing 1/2-1/3. Make moves when you see opportunities, but if your not comfortable with it, be patient
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