Basically i am looking for others opinions. Currently, i play single draw pretty tight to the vest only raising or calling raises with 1 card draws or pat hands. But i can't count the number of times i have raised and watched my caller draw 2 and beat my pat J, 10, or 9 over and over again. are there any 3 card holdings that have enough value to raise or call raises with and draw 2?

Not really, you can draw two to a good 8 or a 7 from the big blind if you can close the action, stick to your tight strategy and you will destroy these donks.

Yeah, it is a slow grind, but i am getting the hang of it. There are some interesting situations i am working out currently to see which are more profitable.

1.) Is it more profitable to check a made 8 low on a one card draw to your opponent, or lead out.

2.) Re-raising pat 9's in position, even good 10's

3.) What are the thinnest draws or pat hands we can raise with in early position. Currently i won't raise bad 10's or 9's from early position (draws or pat hands).

4.) Is there any reason to raise or call with a J low any place besides on the button or cut off? This of course allows us the oppurtunity to stay pat on our opponents one card draws and break if they stay pat.

5.) If our opponent draws one and we stay pat with a J, 10, or 9 and they check after the draw, is there any value in betting unless we have a good 9 low? Our opponent is only calling or raising us with a better hand...

Interested to hear some peoples thoughts on these...

1) The 1st one depends. If he is aggressive check-raise him and if he is a calling station make large value bets. Against good players you have to incorporate both plays in your game.

2) You should usually always play a 9, a T and a J is a little trickier. The tighter the player is the less hands I will re-raise with unless they are easily run over and vice versa for an aggressive player.

3) Play a smooth pat T or better and a 8 low draw or better in EP. The tighter the table though the more hands you can play.

4) Usually only open with a J if you have position but again if the table is on the tight side you can open up in the earlier positions.

5) Usually just showdown a J or a T but value bet a 9 unless the player is an uber calling station.

Thanks for the tips, so far things have been going well. I only had 25 bucks left on stars and was just taking a shot to learn the game and have gotten it up to 58 or so just taking down small pot after small pot. There are so many fish in the game who call raises and draw 2 or 3 and will call a continuation bet with J lows or worse when you stand pat, it is great.

I only ever really draw 2 cards if I am in the blind and can get in cheap. If you have two deuces in your hand then you could draw, because it reduces the chance of your opponent having a strong hand, as the deuce is the best card in the deck, almost always have a deuce in a two card draw.

I am just spewing out Super System here.

From my admittedly limited POV, the average winner is a 9 or 10, so if I'm playing a pat jack or higher, it's with position, with opponents drawing, and basically betting postdraw that their draw missed. I don't draw more than one unless I see a cheap draw, and usually I'm looking to draw to a 9 or better when I do.

Deuces aren't nearly as important in single draw because confrontations between two similar hands are rare. The reason why deuces are so important in triple draw is because most showdowns will be between similar hands, so you want the highest ranking hand possible.