Wow.
I don't see anything that looks really good.
No way I can repeat last weeks 9-0-1 with these lines.
Good for you contrarianismists though.... lots of that.

Okay. I didn't get shellacked last week. Here are the early leans, all lines from Pinny or Wagerline.

UL-Monroe +6 @ Tulane---I agree with takin the 6 here, Tulane is coming up two big games, dont know if they get up for this one.

Tulane cashed for me last week, giving ECU all they could handle. They would've won straight up, save for a few mental breakdowns on defense and some special teams problems. Tulane's going to get hammered at this number. This line is going to be important to watch. What the books do with all the Tulane action they take is going to be a big signal as to our play, here. Also, I am growing to ****ing HATE the Sun Belt conference.

Temple +28 at Penn State--i wouldnt take temple here but i do like the over, think its at like 51, PSU is averaging 55 a game so even if they dont hit thier avg, temple should be able to get late cheap points.
This Temple team is more respectable than past incarnations, but Penn State is awesome. I thought this line was going to open here if the books like Temple, and 32.5ish if the books didn't have a preference. The books like Temple here, and I'll probably trust them and get killed fading Penn State AGAIN.
Fresno at Toledo +7----Agreed, big let down from fresno, plus travel, and toledo is a good home team, horrid on the road though.

Fresno lost a nationally televised game last week, so I don't know if I'll be able to touch this, but if the line holds steady I'll probably have to. This is kind of a disgusting number. How is Toledo going to score?
Arizona at UCLA +1.5--I like the other side, but I dont know if I get involved.

Unfortunately New Mexico beat Rizo last week, so this line might not have as much value as it could, but UCLA got embarrassed by BYU, so it's still probably a play. I really like this look, which is a cue to stay away.
Notre Dame at Sparty -8.5---Love this play, Notre dame capatilized off 6 Mich T.O. and got out gained by Mich by a decent margin, I think mich st. rolls here, there running game should punish the defensive line of ND.

This is going to be a tough decision. I really like Sparty here, and I think they'll win by 2TDs, but that's football Wang talking. If this game just gets split action, I'll probably pass, but I'm admitting right now that I'm looking hard for reasons to play Sparty.
Georgia at Arizona State +7---BLAH
This is even sicker than last week's SC look. The books are NOT big UGA fans right now. Georgia played poorly against SC, and somehow I still only got a push out of it. Arizona State lost to UNLV at 22 point favorites last week. Hopefully Erickson knows what he's doing, here.
Florida at Tennessee +7.5---Ill take Fla, comin off a bye week, would have to buy the hook though.

Tennessee lost to UCLA, who lost to BYU by 50+. Florida covers 7.5 here in the first 2 possessions.
Alabama at Arkansas +9.5

I have nothing to say here.---Me either.

Vanderbilt at Mississippi -7--I like Miss here

Standard anti-public chalk look.

Iowa at Pittsburgh -1.5--I will never trust D.W. with my money.
Ugh
LSU at Auburn +2.5--Like auburn here, and the line at out here in vegas at my book is +3, i really want it to get at 3.5, i guess ill wait to see what happens.

The books will stubbornly refuse to give up the hook, and I'll lose by fieldgoal.
Mississippi State +8 at Georgia Tech--I probably wont play this game but if thier defense comes up with another good game they can slow down GT. Becareful of the look ahead situation that Miss St. is in with LSU next for them.
I'm not sure what I'm doing anymore. I'm fading the ACC with the SEC, and fading the SEC with the ACC. If anything, I should be ignoring this game completely, but I won't be able to do it.
THURSDAY NIGHT SPECIAL

West Vagina at Colorado +2.5---I already have colorado +3 in

Good luck, Coach Stewart.

Wait, you went 9-0-1? I didn't hear about that. Next time make some posts so we know about it.

Hey Wang and power poker --- do you think the line on MSU/ND will change from 8.5? Or is the best it will get get?

Edit-- also I am leaning Wake Forest +4. Do you have any thoughts on this one?

8.5 is kinda a dead line...usually if a team covers 7 they will win by 10 more...so i wouldnt really worry to much about this line.

I like wake here as well, they have been very good at road dogs and with a week off ill take the points.

Wait, you went 9-0-1? I didn't hear about that. Next time make some posts so we know about it.

I agree. Why didn't you share that little piece of information with the rest of us? Some of us would really like to know about it.

Hey Wang and power poker --- do you think the line on MSU/ND will change from 8.5? Or is the best it will get get?

Edit-- also I am leaning Wake Forest +4. Do you have any thoughts on this one?

Wait, who went 9-0-1?

I'm especially impressed with Hollywood's call on the Maryland game, 2 hours after it was over. Lock it up, bra!
I have no real lean, but gun to my head I lay the points with Florida State. I thought that game would be closer to a PK or maybe FSU -2.5. The extra points make me want to take FSU. If it moves to 3.5, I won't touch it. If it moves to 4.5 I'd consider a play on FSU.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I'm considering taking FSU as a side this week. Everyone will want to play Wake.

Thanks for the response-- I have a question-- please remember I am a novice. If the line goes to 4.5 wouldn't that mean the public likes FSU? Wouldn't you then avoid FSU?

If this is covered in sports betting 201 then sorry-- I am actually reading it now so not quite up to where this would be answered-- thanks

Wait, you went 9-0-1? I didn't hear about that. Next time make some posts so we know about it.

Wait, who went 9-0-1?

I'm especially impressed with Hollywood's call on the Maryland game, 2 hours after it was over. Lock it up, bra!
I have no real lean, but gun to my head I lay the points with Florida State. I thought that game would be closer to a PK or maybe FSU -2.5. The extra points make me want to take FSU. If it moves to 3.5, I won't touch it. If it moves to 4.5 I'd consider a play on FSU.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I'm considering taking FSU as a side this week. Everyone will want to play Wake.

Let's get the losing started early.

Tha 'Ville +4.5 +103 (4x)
I wasn't sure if I was going to play this or not, but then I realized I am really bored. This will be over by the end of the first quarter.

I can only get -5


I don't like it... i see why you are going +4.5
LOTS of people going with KS

Well, I've got some good-news/bad-news.

Bad News: After a long fight, my grandfather passed away a few hours ago.

Good News: He was born in Kentucky, and lived in Louisville for a short while. He was never a big football fan, but he liked the fact that I gambled. He got a kick out of my poker "habit," and would have loved the notion of risking obscene sums of money on meaningless sports contests. He used to kick my ass at checkers as a kid, and was the only person who would compete ruthlessly with me when I was a child. He never let me win, not once. When I beat him at checkers for the first time, he was furious, and didn't lose to me again for at least 3 years.
My grandfather also had a pretty good sense of humor, so I'm probably losing this bet.

wow-- very sorry-- I wish your family well during this time

Well, I've got some good-news/bad-news.

Bad News: After a long fight, my grandfather passed away a few hours ago.

Good News: He was born in Kentucky, and lived in Louisville for a short while. He was never a big football fan, but he liked the fact that I gambled. He got a kick out of my poker "habit," and would have loved the notion of risking obscene sums of money on meaningless sports contests. He used to kick my ass at checkers as a kid, and was the only person who would compete ruthlessly with me when I was a child. He never let me win, not once. When I beat him at checkers for the first time, he was furious, and didn't lose to me again for at least 3 years.
My grandfather also had a pretty good sense of humor, so I'm probably losing this bet.

sorry to hear that wang.

Taking WV -3 for x3

I'm almost surely going to be on Colorado tonight, unless the line does something goofy the last few hours before kickoff. The books are taking pretty heavy West Va. action, and if they're uncomfortable with it, they'll give up few points to Colorado backers in the hopes of evening the books out a little. If they do that, I might pass. If they hold steady at 3, I'll be there for sure.

I think you need to give Hollywood some credit here. If you ever aren't sure which way the public is leaning, you can always just come ask him who he prefers. I think he's doing you a service by frequently posting his picks.

(West V. -3 at Colorado) I like West V. over Colorado in this game for various reasons. Lets start with defense, Colorado could not hold a RB by the name of Gartell Johnson on Colorado St. who had 12 carries for 92 yards thats 7.9 ypr and his long was only 24 yards (note: he only had 73 yards on 20 carries for an average of 3.7 ypc against Sac St. lol) and Mr. Noel Devine is averaging 6.7 ypc and he is just an all around beast, even though they lost to a very good ECU squad they still ran for 179 on their solid defense at 5 ypc (Devine 12 carries 94 yds 7.8 ypc), West V. also had 2 costly fumbles to put them behind early. Colorados Defense is nothing close to ECU's I have no confidents in Colorado stopping the run especially Devine. Also Colorado let Eastern Washington QB Nichols throw for 300 on them (note: Colorado was down 10 going into the 4th quarter and scored 17 in the 4th to win including a 27 yard interception return) I feel Pat White can do enough against this Defense. Now as for West V. they have not given up a run over 16 yards so far this year and their opponents only average 3 ypc against them, Colorado only averages 3.5 ypc themselves. The only thing that scares me is Colorados QB Cody Hawkins who has a rating of 144.93 (Pat White 145.13) but I believe they will be one dimensional in this game because they wont be able to run the ball (note: West V. has only given up 1 TD pass this year and have 2 int's). Although West V. gave up 21 pts to Villanova 14 were in the 4th when all of West V's starters were benched, and sure they gave up 24 pts to a good ECU squad but the two fumbles helped ECU get up early as I stated before, plus West V. only gave up 7 pts in the 2nd half and as far as them only scoring 3 pts they moved the ball all game on that Defense they just had costly turnovers and couldnt get on the board so dont read to much into the score. Colorado has given up 17 pts to Colorado St. and 24 to Eastern Washington, I believe West V. has a better Offense than both those teams. Lay the 3

Hell... I just flipped a coin

lol i like your style we all know how these games go i probably just wasted my time and colorados gonna blow us out 52-3 lol

Even though I hate Colorado, Im going to fade Wang and take the Buffs +3.

A "fade" is betting against someone. This would be a "tail."

Also, you should try to limit your tails to spots where I'm not on a pure, bored-on-a-Thursday action play...

Good luck

A "fade" is betting against someone. This would be a "tail."

Also, you should try to limit your tails to spots where I'm not on a pure, bored-on-a-Thursday action play...

Good luck

Wow... both of these teams suck. WVU has like 3 plays in their play book. Colorado is tiny and slow.

*yawn*

HEY POWER POKER ____ NEVER A DOUBT!!! LOL!

well we learned a few things in this game:

1. West V. is in big trouble against any team with some semblence of a run defense, because they certainly will not move the ball through the air. They seem like Navy but with much better players. It was interesting how they couldnt get 3rd and shorts at all, im not very confident in thier offensive line at all at this point in the season.

2. West V. on defense has a shaky secondary and very undisciplined as well. Colorado was moving the ball easily through the air with thier quick throws and the no huddle offense but went away from it to early once they found out they could run the ball.

3. Cody Hawkins seems like a rhythm QB he needs to throw the ball a lot and on just about every down or he will be off a few throws later in the game. They have decent recievers and they found a new weapon with thier running back. Only thing that would concern me here is his size. The guy is tiny and running the ball that much against the strong defenses in the BIG 12 will be tough. He could be injury prone later this season so keep an eye out for that.

Patiently awaiting Wangs final plays.

Sound good?

Hey powerpoker-- for future consideration -- do you think the ineffectiveness of WV on short yardage was more oline problems or improved run defense for Colorado. I was impressed with Colorado short yardage defense but assume that they knew WV never throw in that situation.

I think it was a little of both, if the defense knows your going to run on third and short EVERYTIME, the defense can stack the box, and hopefully break down the O-line. I honestly think it has more to do with the O-line, if you have 3rd and 1, and you take two shots at it you should be able to pick up the first. There line was getting beat two weeks ago against ECU as well.

This week so far 1-1 YTD: 22-17-1

Miss -6.5
UNC -3
Iowa +1
Wake +4
Mich st. -9
Akron -9.5
Troy +21.5
UL Monroe +6
ECU -7