Hi there,

This is my first post and I´m going to start right with my first topic, which I´d like to discuss with you an especially with Mister N. from LV, because it could concern him personally.
But first of all, I´d like to introduce myself. I am Miss Kitty Cat from Germany and I adore animals over all. I´ve three guinea pigs and one kitty (there is the cause of my nick, but of cause I´m a wild cat by myself ^^).
I love animals over all and would even say animals are the better humans; nevertheless I do not live on vegetarian or even vegan food.
What interests me first and foremost would be the motives to feed on vegan food especially the perception of Daniel (and the other vegans here???) would be very interesting. See, I´d like to know what are the backgrounds of a vegan lives and also the reference to modern consumption society (also the critique on modern human society). What concerns me the most is, which influences causes someone to live on vegan, and, going with that step, starting a protest against factory farming and against all cruelty against animals.

I like the idea behind a vegan life but indeed there are some cons.
1. (and that would be the most frequent critical issue of meat eaters) The human is a omnivore, which means that the human body needs nutrients on herbal and animal basis, to be provided properly.
2. Wouldn´t it be better to reduce factory farming and to reduce the exploitation of animals?
Founding Organisations and trough this organisations enlighten more people about the grievances to encourage helping to improve the products by boycotting the involved products.
A hunger strike of a few would never affect the wished goal (if it is the reason for such a life style).
3. What if a vegan is keeping a pet? Lets say a dog (or a cat *smile* ). This pat will be feed on meat and with that on factory farming. In conclusion this means, that the protest is ineffective, because we buy the products should blacklist!
4. If a vegan would live on a farm and he would produce his food al by him/herself, would the consumption then be considerable? If not, it means that, the life style isn´t for protest!

Now I ask you what´s the right way to act.Live the vegan type of life and try to make the world a little bit better? Or do you think that´s the wrong desicion because it doesn´t help anyone apart from your conscience? Is it healthy or does it make you sick. And what would you do, to make it better for all the afflicted animals all over the world?

Greetz Miss Kitty Cat

Try a double whopper with cheese. youll feel much better, trust me.


Oh and Ich mubt eine grosse scheise gemacht.

Vegans are gonna be the first ones killed when anarchy breaks out.

How am I supposed to make a song out of this post? It's way too long.

Every time someone tells me they're a vegan, I feel it's my duty to eat an extra portion of meat with every meal.... just to make up for it.


So thanks, I was getting hungry.

Think Bohemian Rhapsody.

Didn't you guys see she said "I love animals over all and would even say animals are the better humans; nevertheless I do not live on vegetarian or even vegan food.". She isn't a vegan. She's just a grade A fruit loop.

Mmmmm, I haven't had Fruit Loops in a while.



Thanks for the craving.

I'll admit I didn't really read a word of it... no.

All I saw, was 'Vegan, blah, blah... vegans'.

To be honest, I only skimmed over it.

Greetz LadyGrey

THEY NEVER TIGHTEN THE BELTS ON THE PROPELLERS!

obv FYP

Well hello there

wait. isnt this the fake account that was created earlier

its really sad that there aren´t any inteligent comments but spam. whats wrong with you guys? and i am from germany, so my english can´t be as good as yours. whats the problem with it?

if you got nothing to say, better stop talking.

looking forward for some nice and intelligent people.

thank you

pics (nude pics) immed!


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For best results, try this:

http://www.veganforum.com/forums/index.php

Vegas ≠ Vegan

I demand that you stop saying derogatory things about my mother. I WON'T STAND FOR IT.

Your reaction(from all) makes me really sad.

Don´t know whats wrong with you.

Las Vegan was a wordplay. I know the difference.

The last I knew Daniel charges for vegan consultation. The going rate is some home made pottery.

I will not stand for this.





grtz

maybe it is the language barrier, but this is the most insulting thing anybody has ever said to me in my life.

Why?

I wasn´t rude to anybody, but nobody was poltie to me?

Tell me what I´ve done?

I'm sorry, I never meant to hurt you. I know that in your heart you want to forgive me, and I hope that, with time, you will learn to love again. you are a strong soul, and because of this, I know you have the power and will to get past this indiscretion.

Ok color me the only nice person here.

They're not making fun of you exactly, they're just not interested in the discussion.


I'm pretty sure we've had the vegan/meat-eater debate a few times on here, but you're gonna have a hard time finding people to support you because there are very few people who don't eat meat around here.

I got the joke in your title, and I think it is pretty clever for somebody who didn't grow up speaking English.

FWIW I am not a vegetarian but I also don't eat very much meat, and I think it's definitely worth having an actual discussion about it.

no one is really trying to be mean. we're just a bunch of silly sallys here in off-topic. trying to get us to discuss something like this is very difficult. basically we're all trying to make each other laugh (some people do it quite well and others not so much).

if you really want to discuss something with daniel (and other serious seths), then try posting this in the daniel's blog forum. it would probably have a higher success rate than the off-topic area where we're always messing around

If you don't want to eat animals, be vegan. It's stupid, since the animals we eat only get a life (however short it may be) in the first place specifically because we want to raise and eat them...but if you'd rather they never be born I guess it makes sense.

Meh, I'm pretty sure that is a faulty argument. I will attempt to refute you when I get back from eating a delicious chicken for dinner.

Beelzebub has a devil put aside for you

Yep, that's why i only eat free range chicken and wild salmon. Gotta maximize the impact of every calorie!

Mama mia let me go!

Speedz I dub your argument the 'GODDAMMIT I GAVE YOU LIFE AND I CAN DAMN WELL TAKE IT AWAY, NOW STOP HITTING YOUR SISTER!' argument. I think you can infer from the title I gave it what I think is wrong with it.

it involves too much yelling and is not applicable to those lucky souls without a younger sister?

I still think it's a reasonable argument for why it's ok as a culture to be meat-eaters. As long as the animals are treated humanely (sadly, I gave up veal a while back and also go with the free range stuff) it really is true that they wouldn't exist if we weren't going to eat them.

But yes, I see your point.

Bingo!

aaaaaand im spent!

While in St Louis I went to the State fair and had some chocolate covered bacon

Very good in small amounts. After 2 pieces you couldn't give the stuff away

Not even to people who hadn't had any yet?

If it makes up for anything

just want you to know ive been to germania and found the people there very real.

Las Vegan could not be found via mapquest so I would not suggest rolling up your steak and moving there.