So I watched the premiere and it was better than expected, but honestly my expectations weren't that high. There's a Hamlet plot line with the protagonist, his mom, and the leader of the club. Katey Sagal's character seems like she very well may turn out to be the power behind the throne. I'm not completely decided on this yet but I'm gonna give it a few more episodes. They do have some talent in there though:
Katey Sagal
Ron Perlman
Mitch Pileggi
Mark Boone Junior
As well as some supporting characters played by people I recognize from bit parts in movies like Saving Private Ryan and Braveheart.

Yeah I'm replying to myself. Why? Because fuck Gallo's thread, that's why.


Suppositions, deductions and predictions:

So the atf agent is the guy the doc had the restraining order against. he took the pic of jax banging the blonde to drive a wedge. he's off the reservation and the atf has no idea he's in charming stalking his ex. the atf agent will push to hard on doc, jax will learn that the atf has no idea he's the agent is in town and he'll never be heard from again.

I wonder if the lead of this show ever gets.. " hey dude, you look like Kurt Cobian!!!" often..

Hey, Mac, is this show actually something I'd like?

Here's what I think of it, actually.. the show could have fit in a large spectrum, of really good, to really crappy. So far, it really has been snuggly in between, It's not anywhere near as cool as it could be, but it was much better than it probably should be.


I just get the feeling, that I would like this show a hell of alot more, if it had come out 10 years ago. Now, in the post-Sopranos world, it just seems likes one of a series of knock offs, and it feels like they are getting more and more desperate for gimmick premises to base anti-hero shows on.

So far I am watching it.. but if it doesn't get slightly more interesting I may just forget about it. It really could have been much better than it is.

Now tell me this.. I'm a little confused about what the whole Sam Cro thing is?

PS.. Charlie Hunnam is AMAZINGLY HOT!

hehe Google is my friend..

S ons of
A narchy
M otorcycle
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R edwood
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The Redwood Original thing is like a "Mother Chapter" badge, except so far there are no other satellite chapters...

looooooooool


I agree totally with this. The show can be better, it's not bad, but it's not great either. I think I probably would've liked the show much better if they started it when the gang was first formed and the changes it went through to now. I mean, I'd like to see how it went from maybe just a group of guys who liked to ride bikes to a gang that runs guns.

Can someone give me a summary of episode one? I missed that one, but have seen the others.


And I agree with BigD. It could be better, but hell, I have no life so I'll watch.

No, probably not. It's not good enough to be considered really good, and it's not bad enough to like for irony.

you must have loved nirvana back in the day.

I liked them.. but never thought Kurt was hot. Charlie Hunnam is much better looking

I don't think they could do this since it would negate the Hamlet-esque storyline.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixyTNd-Ln38

I don't think I can ever watch a show that promotes Hell's Angels, which is basically what this is. Not to give too much detail, but they had contracts on my Dad at least twice, and it may have been three times. I was pretty young, so I cannot remember.

Actually, the main character (Jax) is reading his dad's journal which basically says the outlaw gangs got it wrong by becoming too criminally oriented instead of being "responsible anarchists."

What happened to Jax's dad? Did whats his name kill him and only the viewers know?

Well, you better tell your pops to




Also, if you watched the Sopranos, but not this, you're just plainly a hypocrite. Unless you watched the Sopranos instead of this because the Sopranos are much, much better.. then you just have good taste.

I like me some Katy Sagal

I KNEW you were going to jump on that, and it half the reason I even bothered posting it.

Actually I never watched the Sopranos, except a couple episode and could not get into it. I also don't have HBO.

My father has had 3 contracts (I remembered) 2 from the HA's and one from the Gotti family. That one was quashed quickly by the FBI because they hired two Cubans (or Columbians, it was a Hispanic C country) and they were picked up immediately arriving into town because they stuck out like sore thumbs.

Well, as long as you're consistent about your organized crime entertainment consumption. Thank god you don't listen to gangster rap.

Organized crime speaks to me.

But dont kid yourself, its not that organized.

LOL. Yeah my dad was not really happy about my NWA and Ice-T albums in H.S.

I never really played Fuck the Police in ear shot of him.

Well if they borrow from Hamlet, which they seem to be fairly heavily, then yes. Most likely with at least tacit approval from moms.

Thats what I figured. I just wasnt sure if they'd told the audience yet.

I was LOLing when that dude kept jerking off like that.

And that was sick with the burning. That dude was an ahole, but damn. I think I'd have an easier time putting one in the back of his head than I would burning him like that.

Yeah that was pretty brutal.

Yeah.. that was funny as hell!

Agreed that was pretty sick.

Is it just me or was this episode a little better than the last ones?

Concur.

Soon one of these guys are gonna realize what a fine old lady you're gonna make, SA...

solid ep. looks like the tension between jax and clay begins next week.

Good lord, is that Hermione???? Sorry, back to the show...was that female ATF agent supposed to be funny? or awkward?

The show has definitely gotten better and I'm hooked.

you're goddamned right it is.

She is.......beyond compare!!!!

i know.



i know.

I wanna get back to discussing the show in question....but right now all I can think about is what a lucky guy Ron Weasley is....

They pretty much came out with it. Mom and Clay killed old man Jax. Be a while before it comes out though.

I thought the bones were going to be his and thats why they were hiding it from Jax.. I was a bit disapointed when it wasn't.

too early for that.

Im starting to lose interest. I'll finish the season, but they need to pick it up. Seems like I know everything that will happen.

Really? I thought last night was pretty decent. The ATF gal just got the file on SOA from deputy asshat. The SOA have positioned themselves to possibly make a new enemy and formed an uneasy peace with the Mayans. Incredibly the Mayan leader sacrificed his own son to make the peace. And the mom made sense in her view of the relationship between jax and the doc.

It wasn't action packed by any means but sets up some interesting possiblities for the future.

Wow, I guess I must have missed that part in your spoiler because I didn't know that, if it was true.

I really thought I heard the guy call him "Pop." I could be wrong.

I didnt even realize that. That isnt really believable to me. But maybe Im too caught up in Italian Mafia to understand Mexicans.

Well it's not that big of a sacrifice. Given that he's mexican he's probably got at least 5 or 6 more sons.

Otto messed up. Now she's personally motivated to bust the club.

how creepy is it that Jax's girlfriend looks EXACTLY LIKE HIS MOTHER?

It was still worth seeing Otto smash her head even if it is just t.v. I was happy.

Yes. This was enjoyable.