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IQCrash
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($114.20)
Hero (MP2) ($115.50)
CO ($100.85)
Button ($146.45)
SB ($164.00)
BB ($96.00)
UTG ($19.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3 icon_suit_club.gif 3 icon_suit_heart.gif
2 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, 1 fold, Button calls $4.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 3 icon_suit_diamond.gif 2 icon_suit_diamond.gif 4 icon_suit_spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $7.00, Button calls $7.00

Turn: ($23.50) 3 icon_suit_spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $13.00, Hero calls $13.00

River: ($49.50) 2 icon_suit_club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $22.00, Hero raises to $91.50 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $93.50 | Rake: $3.00


Villain is pretty active, likes calling a lot of raises in and out of position, and likes to fire on the flop when first to act or in position if checked to. That said, I haven't really seen him get too out of line or call off all his chips on a gutshot - so he's not completely brainless, but like I said, quite active.

Think we got maximum value from this hand? The way it played out, do you think there's any street we could have extracted more value from the villain?
DocHoliday
I think we got all we could from this hand... If we raise the turn, he might call, but it would probably kill the river action... Perhaps min raise on the turn, and small bet on the river, but the value would still be around the same, if he would even continue.
Honestly, I do not see how we can extract any more money here. He is never calling raise on the river without at least 44 (as he cant have 3), deuce is a long shot, and I don't even think I would call with deuce in this spot, and I am really not much of a player, so... Quads are hard to get a lot of money from, but this is respectable chunk IMO.

EDIT: Perhaps shove on the river might make him think we are bluffing, but its a long shot... It works sometimes against aggressive opponents, but it can also cause us to lose value.
AcesUp46
I like your line. Extracted the most you can imo
Stupidhead
Only thing I might change is check-min-raising the river as anything that is calling us has to do a crying call. Unless he has 44, in which case the money is going in anyway.
whatgreatis
Your line looks good to me.
CobaltBlue
I'm somewhat tempted to bet the turn and then take this line. This line's decent though.
Deftones150
If you are pretty sure this guy can 3 barrel everytime this line is as good as it gets. Personally I would c/r the turn. The 3 normally doesn't help anyone in that situation and it adds a second flush draw. I think raising him to $30ish would be able to get him to come along and if he leads again he is priced in to call your shove.
whatgreatis
QUOTE (CobaltBlue @ Sunday, August 24th, 2008, 5:59 PM) *
I'm somewhat tempted to bet the turn and then take this line. This line's decent though.


That's a good point. You can bet this turn and expect to get called a lot of the time and then go for the river check raise. That way you set your own bet sizing. Ussually when you bet the flop and villain calls and the turn pairs the board, you can expect to get called again if they have much at all.
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