UTG - Is on the loose passive side, doesn't seem to possess much sense of position. 29/12/1 after 40 hands.

Villain 1 - Don't really know much about him, he is 31/6/2 after 30 hands, I haven't played any hands with him and haven't seen any of his hands go to showdown yet. He is playing the short stack so I assume his strategy is to try and flop a pair and then shove on the flop.

Villain 2 - Seems pretty fishy, stats are 71/12/2 after ~60 or so hands. The only hand I've played with him is one where he minraised UTG, I call in the SB with A4s and flop the wheel, he calls my checkraise, calls bet on K turn and folds on a 7 river when I shove my last $5 into and $11 pot. I guess he had some kind of pocket pair 66-TT.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: ITH Forums)

MP ($9.55)
Hero ($15.95)
Button ($9.15)
SB (Villain 1) ($3.05)
BB (Villain 2) ($33.40)
UTG ($43.45)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
UTG raises to $0.4, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold, SB calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.60) , , (4 players)
Villain 1 bets $2.65 (All-In), Villain 2 calls $2.65, UTG folds, Hero ?

If you say call, what's the plan for the turn?

How much equity/fold equity do I need to shove with the short stack all in?

I don't really like the pf call - 6-max most of my profit comes not from playing drawing hands in position (and in CO, not even OTB) but from being the aggressor. This is more of a full-ring type move. Too often I end up folding UI or not getting paid off with my transparent draw.

Anyway just another way to view preflop action; it's not worth criticizing, to be honest. I make such calls all day long when I know I probably shouldn't (especially at the micros where villains pay off your transparent draws and/or let you draw cheaply).

Now do you mean villain 1 is all-in? He supposedly has $33, so he can't be all in on a $2.65 bet. I'm confused about stack sizes here.

OTF it seems like villain 2 has caught a pair, and hopefully an ace. I call hoping to stack him on a diamond, given your read of him. I'm confident he's not betting the turn. I'm certainly not shoving, not when we're both very deep and I can get the money in when he's drawing dead.

But if Villain 1's not actually all in then I fold. He likes his hand and will bomb a blank turn.

You gotta call the for the turn then re-evaluate after.

I call pf all day and twice on Sundays.

If the villain with remaining money (its a little unclear as you seem to have mixed up your villains when you edited this hand) is a fish, then I just call flop. Almost always he will check to you and you can check behind unimproved on the turn, thus getting a free card. And he's really unlikely to fold an A here which is probably what he has. So if you hit you stack him, and if not you didn't pay much.

Mark

Fixed my OP.

Villain 1 is the short stack that is all in.
Villain 2 has the big stack.

QFT

Yeah I think calling the flop's where I'm at. I don't see villian 2 laying down after the overpot call. He'll prob. painfully call you flop shove w/ aj off.


Not sure how much you'll get paid if you hit, but I think you can get the other streets cheap.

I kind of agree w/ not getting involved pre flop.

I would make this call if the ORIGINAL raiser had a full stack, but since the first guy in the pot to show aggression's short you can't get paid on spec hands as well.

Just kinda how I play, I'm way wider against full stax.

The original UTG pre flop raiser is 400+ BB deep and I have 160 BB. Both the villains in this hand call behind in the SB and BB whilst the UTG raiser folds on the flop.

my bad. sometimes I just get in my head vil.1 vil.2 and scroll down.


apologies.

I fold the bet on the flop.

I can't tell you how many times villain 1 will show down a higher diamond draw. Worse yet, villain 2 could have Kd,Qd and stack you when a 3rd diamond hits the board.