is getting it all in with a double suited rundown against two people with aces standard?


Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $21.80
UTG+1: $50
MP1: $52.25
MP2: $50.90
MP3: $50
CO: $47.10
Hero: $160.05
SB: $32.60
BB: $67.65

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with 3 A A 8
UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 raises to $2.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, UTG raises all-in $21.8, MP1 folds, MP2 raises all-in $50.9, Hero calls.

Flop: 4 7 3 ($60.7, 2 players + 2 all-in - Main pot: $66.65)


Turn: T ($60.7, 2 players + 2 all-in - Main pot: $66.65)


River: 8 ($60.7, 2 players + 2 all-in - Main pot: $66.65)


Results:
Final pot: $60.7
Hero showed 3c Ad Ah 8d
UTG showed 6c 5c 6s 7s
MP2 showed Ks Ac Qs As

I woulda folded the 5667 because of the pair, but yeah I'd get ds rundowns all in pf multiway because they're fun and make straights and flushes.

so on average, even though against two people holding aces your flushes are dead a lot, you will have positive equity enough to do this?

i am going to become a 3 betting maniac this is going to be fun.

You're obv not always against 2 aces in 3 way all ins most of the time though, but here are some calcs:

live flush outs:

Ks 2c Ad Ah 44344 8.87 376522 75.30 79134 15.83 0.168
5c 4c 7d 6d 251351 50.27 248649 49.73 0 0.00 0.503
As Js Ac Th 125171 25.03 295695 59.14 79134 15.83 0.329

one flush dead:

2c Ad Kd Ah 72076 14.42 348549 69.71 79375 15.88 0.224
5c 4c 7d 6d 211460 42.29 288540 57.71 0 0.00 0.423
As Js Ac Th 137089 27.42 283536 56.71 79375 15.88 0.354

and if we completely kill our flush outs:

2c Ad Kd Ah 73020 14.60 345564 69.11 81416 16.28 0.227
5c 4c 7d 6d 185149 37.03 314851 62.97 0 0.00 0.370
As Js Ac Tc 160415 32.08 258169 51.63 81416 16.28 0.402

A few more typical situations:

Dominating rundown:

7s 9c 8c Td 144439 28.89 354356 70.87 1205 0.24 0.290
5c 4c 7d 6d 146445 29.29 352350 70.47 1205 0.24 0.294
As 2s Ac Kc 207911 41.58 292089 58.42 0 0.00 0.416

Aces vs Good Kings vs ds rundown (with one flush dead):

Ks Kc Qc Td 124861 24.97 375064 75.01 75 0.01 0.250
5c 4c 7d 6d 200196 40.04 299804 59.96 0 0.00 0.400
As 2s Ac Jc 174868 34.97 325057 65.01 75 0.01 0.350

Same situation above but with an additional player that muddies our outs:

Ks Kc Qc Td 71002 18.83 305941 81.15 49 0.01 0.188
5c 4c 7d 6d 104710 27.78 270902 71.86 1380 0.37 0.280
As 2s Ac Jc 95746 25.40 281197 74.59 49 0.01 0.254
9s 8s 9h 6h 104105 27.61 271507 72.02 1380 0.37 0.278

Vs double suited aces HU:

5c 4c 7d 6d 208394 41.68 291606 58.32 0 0.00 0.417
As 2s Ac Jc 291606 58.32 208394 41.68 0 0.00 0.583

Vs Monster DS Aces HU:

5c 4c 7d 6d 207511 41.50 292489 58.50 0 0.00 0.415
As Ks Ac Qc 292489 58.50 207511 41.50 0 0.00 0.585

vs Monster Aces and 2 ds pair:

5c 4c 7d 6d 188353 37.67 311647 62.33 0 0.00 0.377
As Ks Ac Qc 168942 33.79 331020 66.20 38 0.01 0.338
Js Ts Jc Tc 142667 28.53 357295 71.46 38 0.01 0.285

yes, this is often a good move with a short-medium stack(as was in your hand due to UTG and MP2 being medium). It would be unwise to play this way for large stacks because you couldn't be certain that 1 player didn't have a lot of your outs killed with a similar rundown.

Yes, all serious PLO players need to know these basic matchups. And of course now you'll figure out why and when to 3-bet.

Ya, two people holding AAxx. Need to be pretty sure of that before you are willing to stack off with a 5667 type hand. Interesting all the equities Robb ran. You're rarely in terrible shape with a pure rundown.