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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1./$2.
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with T T 5 A
UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: T 2 A ($10, 5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, UTG calls, 3 folds.

Turn: 8 ($26, 2 players)
Hero bets $22, UTG calls.

River: 6 ($70, 2 players)
Hero bets $41, UTG raises to $82, Hero ???

First time I've taken a shot at a game this big because the PT data I had mined marked it as a very soft game.

Villan 72/10/2 over 107 hands

I'm curious about river, but other streets as well of course

Raisy daisy, what beats you? he cant have aces full, so essentially you have the nuts.
I dont see how you played this wrong, second set on a dry board. This is value town all the way baby
Really that river was a perfect card, i just cant see a hand that beats you, in fact, I dont think there is a hand that beats you, you have the nuts

yeah, is this a level? how do you not have the best hand possible here?

Umm, I don't have the best possible hand because the Ac appears to have come on the flop AND the turn. Converter error - I'll fix it up.

I call because he's only repping 79 here and giving us decent odds. If he had AAxx, LOL, but I think you're good often enough to call.

I really hope more PLO players post in this thread because this seems like an easy call, but I often end up getting owned here some % of the time that I feel dumb when he has it.

OK, now your thread makes sense, u know, its a tough call, the only hand that beats you is AAxx...and you have an A in your hand so....
I mean, he limps in with AAxx?
I think with a read this is a call, but I cant see a player limping with AAxx, unless they are being tricky or something
personally I like AAxx in a multiway pot, I think alot of the time it has better value then against one or two opponents, and Set mine, this might sound week, i dunno,
AAxx is probably the hardest hand to play in Omaha in my mind.
He could also be repping something stupid like a Set of 2`s on the flop
Yeah, just looking at this hand, your either crushed on the flop or crushing
I think this is a call though, def not a raise
unless you think hes gonna call with a straight....

Now I'm really confused.

If the hand history is right now, just call. You have fired 3 streets and are now being min-check raised on the river. I don't see value in a re-pot. But I am super nitty on the river.

Looking at this hand, I think this becomes more read decision based then maths, how long have you played with villan,
does he call light on the river,
have you seen him raise AAxx before, because alot of omaha players will raise with Aces, not many limp in
Plus he could have 9s full or something as well
I think I would min raise, and then maybe maybe fold to another raise, but I would expect to call and win...
what was the result btw

oh god please never ever min re-raise/fold this river.

I call this just because people are retarded , not that i love to call this river. Normally he shouldn't be doing this with anything but the straight. But they actually do.

Wait... Am I the only one who does not see the board paired. Am I going crazy?

Umm, no. 9s full of what?!?

Thread's wrong here (or at least the ones posting since the converter was fixed). A river min-raise from this type of player is going to be the straight ~98% of the time. You should definitely fold here. Just to show that I'm not all talk, and I'm capable of making this play in game, here's me bet-folding to a min-raise against a similar loose-passive donkey.

POKERSTARS GAME #19316968128: OMAHA POT LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2008/08/03 - 02:26:28 (ET)
Table 'Desdemona IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: badr ($970 in chips)
Seat 2: iggymcfly ($3955.25 in chips)
Seat 3: muddy1969 ($1667.50 in chips)
Seat 4: nipe1955 ($5068.05 in chips)
Seat 5: GHand69 ($1230.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Drock8d5 ($2982 in chips)
iggymcfly: posts small blind $5
muddy1969: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to iggymcfly [9d 5c 8c 9c]
nipe1955: calls $10
GHand69: raises $30 to $40
Drock8d5: calls $40
badr: calls $40
iggymcfly: calls $35
muddy1969: folds
nipe1955: calls $30
*** FLOP *** [8h 4s 7c]
iggymcfly: checks
nipe1955: bets $130
GHand69: folds
Drock8d5: calls $130
badr: folds
iggymcfly: calls $130
*** TURN *** [8h 4s 7c] [6c]
iggymcfly: bets $597
nipe1955: calls $597
Drock8d5: folds
*** RIVER *** [8h 4s 7c 6c] [8s]
iggymcfly: bets $850
nipe1955: raises $850 to $1700
iggymcfly: folds
Uncalled bet ($850) returned to nipe1955
nipe1955 collected $3491 from pot
nipe1955: doesn't show hand
Drock8d5 said, "im equally confused lol"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3494 | Rake $3
Board [8h 4s 7c 6c 8s]
Seat 1: badr (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: iggymcfly (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: muddy1969 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: nipe1955 collected ($3491)
Seat 5: GHand69 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Drock8d5 folded on the Turn

I think folding is giving way too much credit to the players at this level.

Considering the sillyness potential of an average player , i think 6 to 1 are good odds to call this. You should win this enough times.