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outsider13
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BRANDON - Thirty-six passengers of a Greyhound bus travelling from Edmonton to Winnipeg Thursday night watched in horror as a fellow passenger stabbed another man sleeping next to him, eventually decapitating him and waving the man’s severed head.

“He didn’t do anything to provoke the guy. They guy just took a knife out and stabbed him, started stabbing him like crazy and cut his head off,” said Garnet Caton, 36, a passenger.

The bus made an emergency stop, and passengers fled in terror onto the Trans-Canada Highway while the bus’s driver and a driver of a nearby truck shut the crazed man inside the bus with the victim. Passengers say they stood outside the bus and watched through the window, horrified, as the man disfigured the victim’s body.

By 10:30 p.m. the eastbound bus was stopped on the highway about 10 kilometres east of Portage La Prairie, surrounded by RCMP cruisers./p>

Caton and others said once they escaped, they prevented the attacker from getting off the bus by threatening him with makeshift weapons like a hammer and a metal bar.

“We were telling him, ‘Stay put, stay put, stay there, don’t try to come out.’ He tried to get the bus working and the bus driver disabled the bus somehow in the back, I’m not sure how he did it, and at that point, I think the police showed up,” he said, adding officers rushed them away.

“Some people were puking, some people were crying, other people were in shock ... everybody was running, screaming off the bus.”

Caton described the man who attacked the passenger as about six feet tall, 200 pounds, with a bald head and wearing sunglasses. He seemed oblivious to others when the stabbing occurred, said Caton.

Caton said the victim boarded in Edmonton, was aboriginal in appearance, and was wearing hip-hop clothing, and appeared to be a young man around 20 years of age.

“When we saw the head, we knew he was dead,” he said. “I don’t think the guy knew him at all. I think he was really crazy... the poor guy, he didn’t see it coming.”

Two yellow school buses were brought in to the closed-off stretch of highway near MacGregor for passengers to sit in while the stand-off between officers and the man inside the bus proceeded for hours.

Caton said the attacker was only on the bus for a brief period of time, after boarding in western Manitoba.

The passengers were later taken to Brandon to be interviewed by police and to stay overnight at a hotel there.

Crisis counsellors were also at the hotel to provide support to the passengers, and counsellors could be seen chatting with them outside the hotel as groups went out to local stores for snacks or to smoke cigarettes.

One small boy, who was with an adult man and woman, was given a plush teddy bear by a crisis health worker.

Another young man from Nova Scotia sat outside the Brandon hotel smoking around 3 a.m. Visibly shaken, he said RCMP had taken 36 witnesses in for questioning. He said later: “I felt bad that all the young people and old people had to see that.”

The man, who did not want his name used, said the victim of the stabbing had been sleeping before the attack.

Other passengers said that the two men were sitting in the rear of the bus and the stabbing victim was listening to music through his headphones. The attack appeared to be unprovoked.

“The first thing I heard was something like a terrible type (of) yowl and that was from the guy who got stabbed,” said an elderly woman from Winnipeg who was on the bus.

The woman and her adult daughter said they were three or four rows in front of the suspect when the attack began.

“(My daughter said) ‘Oh my God’ and everybody else started screaming,” she said. “They had terror in their eyes.”

Passengers said there was a rush of people towards the front of the bus to get off.

An RCMP spokesman could not be reached early today to confirm the precise time the man was taken into custody or further details.

Two other passengers on the bus, a 22-year-old man and 21-year-old woman, from France, said they were heading to Winnipeg after visiting the woman’s father in Whitehorse. The 22-year-old man said in French that he saw a man holding a long kitchen knife repeatedly stab another passenger. He and his girlfriend said they were shocked by the attack, and the isolation in the middle of the prairies when it occurred.

“There was nowhere to go,” she said.



Just wow.
CBass1724
Stupid Canadians.
HollywoodAFD
Guy 1: (sits down) Hey Buddy

Guy 2: It's muddy?

Guy 1: I said HEY BUDDY!

Guy 2: Ain't funny!?

Guy 1: Nevermind. Where ya headed?

Guy 2: You regret it?

Guy 1: No! I wanna know WHERE YA HEADED?

Guy 2: You wanna be be-headed?

Guy1: Fuck it...nevermind. (goes to sleep)
Royal_Tour
Looks like the guy lost tthe coin flip??

maybe the crazy bastard had just finished watching No country for old men, and then the dark knighht immediately after.?
Suited_Up
WHAT

THE

FUCK?
hblask
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One small boy, who was with an adult man and woman, was given a plush teddy bear by a crisis health worker.


"Here's your reminder-that-you-witnessed-a-gruesome-murder teddy bear, Timmy. Now go to sleep. Sweet dreams!"
RabidTortuga
Um, people suck. Of all the people on the bus, no one tries to stop the nutjob?
outsider13
QUOTE (RabidTortuga @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 9:55 AM) *
Um, people suck. Of all the people on the bus, no one tries to stop the nutjob?

TBH, I'd be soooooo long gone it wouldn't be funny. I'd be so freaked out, I'd be 3 miles down the highway before the guy got a head.
Suited_Up
QUOTE (RabidTortuga @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 9:55 AM) *
Um, people suck. Of all the people on the bus, no one tries to stop the nutjob?


I think he was dead by the time they realized wtf he was doing.
HollywoodAFD
QUOTE (hblask @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 9:25 AM) *
"Here's your reminder-that-you-witnessed-a-gruesome-murder teddy bear, Timmy. Now go to sleep. Sweet dreams! MUWAhahahahahahahaha!"

FYP
TravisG
how can people be such ****ing nits. it was a knife, not a ****ing shotgun or something. just take anything sharp or heavy or even your bare fists and beat the crap out of this scum. you're 36! idiots!

i think people who dont help there should go to jail, seriously. i saw a vid recently where a man stabbed his wife in a public place and PLENTY of people were just walking by like nothing happened. some others stood by the side and just watched it, while 3 guys tried to "take him off" of her, buy kicking him with sidekicks that i can only call "pussy-kick". LOL he didn't even notice them. he just continued to stab her for like 3 minutes. somehow she survived it, but well... to me thats like assistance to murder.

(that was in the netherlands btw)
Sal Paradise
wow, more heroes on this board than I thought. you guys are brave!
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 9:06 AM) *
wow, more heroes on this board than I thought. you guys are brave!



No shiit! hahaha.

Lets be honest, as you think abotu the situation, you think.. Oh man!! I'd totally whammy that guy, i'd grab a fire extinguisher and f-him up!

but comon. if u looked over and saw some guy pulling "the hills have eyes" on some dude in the back, you'd be sooo shocked at what you were looking at, you'd probably freeze for a good 10 seconds before realizing what exactly you were witnessing.
Then by that time, buddy would be dead, women would be screaming, and running... and before you know it. your legs would be throwing themselves out from under you...
Just like a roach, who runs from danger before it even knows its in danger.

Its survival. human instincts is to get the hell away from danger, if danger gets you, then fight for your life.

all this being said tho, I'd totally super man punch the guy in the back of the head, then grab the knife, and slice across his face creating a smiley.
then top it off with "Why So Serious??"

then, take said fire extinguisher, blast his ass, and proceed to say "You need to chill".....

then the people on the bus would all cheer... the end
Jeepster80125
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Caton said the victim boarded in Edmonton, was aboriginal in appearance, and was wearing hip-hop clothing, and appeared to be a young man around 20 years of age.

“When we saw the head, we knew he was dead,” he said. “I don’t think the guy knew him at all. I think he was really crazy... the poor guy, he didn’t see it coming.”

Good stuff.
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 1:42 PM) *
Guy 1: (sits down) Hey Buddy

Guy 2: It's muddy?

Guy 1: I said HEY BUDDY!

Guy 2: Ain't funny!?

Guy 1: Nevermind. Where ya headed?

Guy 2: You regret it?

Guy 1: No! I wanna know WHERE YA HEADED?

Guy 2: You wanna be be-headed?

Guy1: Fuck it...nevermind. (goes to sleep)

:crickets:
nutzbuster
USA right to bears arms and concealed carry permit, FTW!

I'd have had a ball capping that psycho.
Suited_Up
QUOTE (nutzbuster @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 12:09 PM) *
USA right to bears arms and concealed carry permit, FTW!

I'd have had a ball capping that psycho.


Don't start.
ajs510
In case anyone was wondering, I haven't set foot in Canada in over a year now.
Suited_Up
QUOTE (ajs510 @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 12:28 PM) *
In case anyone was wondering, I haven't set foot in Canada in over a year now.


I had been wondering for weeks!
navybuttons
QUOTE (Suited_Up @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 10:38 AM) *
I had been wondering for weeks!


i read this for a few minutes.
CardWarfare
QUOTE (Royal_Tour @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 11:24 AM) *
all this being said tho, I'd totally super man punch the guy in the back of the head, then grab the knife, and slice across his face creating a smiley.
then top it off with "Why So Serious??"

then, take said fire extinguisher, blast his ass, and proceed to say "You need to chill".....

then the people on the bus would all cheer... the end

Or rather... the beginning..


Do you have any idea how much ass you would pull for that? All the hot mommies on the bus would be bending over for insertion, whether their kids were there or not.
brvheart
QUOTE (CardWarfare @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 12:49 PM) *
Or rather... the beginning..
Do you have any idea how much ass you would pull for that? All the hot mommies on the bus would be bending over for insertion, whether their kids were there or not.


...and all the overweight chicks would rub your feet and ask to carry your luggage.
Sal Paradise
QUOTE (ajs510 @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 1:28 PM) *
In case anyone was wondering, I haven't set foot in Canada in over a year now.

ok cool. I read "Caton described the man who attacked the passenger as about six feet tall, 200 pounds, with a bald head and wearing sunglasses." and I have to say I did get a little worried.
brvheart
What I don't understand about this story is how could ultra-conservative sonofabitch Canada allow people to own knives that are sharp enough to behead someone?!?!?!?

When will we stop the insanity and ban all knives with long sharp blades??

I mean really... what real purpose would a knife like that have? Hunting? Hell no! No one would hunt with a knife!
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (brvheart @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 11:03 AM) *
What I don't understand about this story is how could ultra-conservative sonofabitch Canada allow people to own knives that are sharp enough to behead someone?!?!?!?

When will we stop the insanity and ban all knives with long sharp blades??

I mean really... what real purpose would a knife like that have? Hunting? Hell no! No one would hunt with a knife!


I use the largest knife possible when cutting open watermelon...

everyone loves watermelon..

this is the exact reason why a utopian society could never be. you do without all weapons, yet you still need some juicy delicious watermelon for your mid day BBQ, and some crazy assss uses it to start beheading people.
Suited_Up
Gaffer
QUOTE (Suited_Up @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 10:35 AM) *
brvheart
QUOTE (Royal_Tour @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 1:33 PM) *
I use the largest knife possible when cutting open watermelon...

everyone loves watermelon..

this is the exact reason why a utopian society could never be. you do without all weapons, yet you still need some juicy delicious watermelon for your mid day BBQ, and some crazy assss uses it to start beheading people.



You shouldn't murder fruit.
Flushgarden
If a responsible citizen had been carrying a gun maybe that guys life could have been saved.
Royal_Tour
QUOTE (brvheart @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 11:49 AM) *
You shouldn't murder fruit.


what about carving out a hole and having sex with it?
timwakefield
QUOTE (Flushgarden @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 2:50 PM) *
If a responsible citizen had been carrying a gun maybe that guys life could have been saved.


You really think so? How long do you think it took a maniac with a huge knife to inflict fatal wounds? As little as 5-10 seconds?? Maybe as much as 30 seconds? With everybody running and screaming to get off the bus, total confusion and panic, you think you could 1. get a clear shot and 2. not accidentally shoot a child or something?
Sal Paradise
do we really have to turn this into another gun control thread? I mean REALLY?


this is a thread about crazy people murdering people in a manner that is fitting of a hollywood horror movie. lets keep it like that kthnx.


edit: oh, and sex with fruit. its also about sex with fruit.
IamStewie
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 5:42 AM) *
Guy 1: (sits down) Hey Buddy

Guy 2: It's muddy?

Guy 1: I said HEY BUDDY!

Guy 2: Ain't funny!?

Guy 1: Nevermind. Where ya headed?

Guy 2: You regret it?

Guy 1: No! I wanna know WHERE YA HEADED?

Guy 2: You wanna be be-headed?

Guy1: Fuck it...nevermind. (goes to sleep)


Don't quit your day job.


Was a bit funny though.... aha!


QUOTE (Royal_Tour @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 5:50 AM) *
Looks like the guy lost tthe coin flip??

maybe the crazy bastard had just finished watching No country for old men, and then the dark knighht immediately after.?

That's good comedy!

QUOTE (hblask @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 6:25 AM) *
"Here's your reminder-that-you-witnessed-a-gruesome-murder teddy bear, Timmy. Now go to sleep. Sweet dreams!"

You assmunch! Speak not about the bear! If Rupert causes me to have nightmares now... I will hunt you down. You hear me ! ! !
Flushgarden
QUOTE (timwakefield @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 12:03 PM) *
You really think so? How long do you think it took a maniac with a huge knife to inflict fatal wounds? As little as 5-10 seconds?? Maybe as much as 30 seconds? With everybody running and screaming to get off the bus, total confusion and panic, you think you could 1. get a clear shot and 2. not accidentally shoot a child or something?


Yeah thats why I said maybe. But it definitely couldnt have hurt the situation...and the guy could have been put out of commission right there so that he would have no chance to hurt anybody else.
TommyGavin81
Why am I posting in this thread? I don't know but I'll make it quick.

People saying other passengers are cowards are retarded. I'm sure the dude was dead instantly after the knife got to his throat. The beheading is just for show and maybe that could have been prevented, but who cares. Muthafucka dead. Why would you want to start a fight with a guy who just got done beheading someone? He may be a little crazy and he has a knife that is capable of cutting someone's head off. There's courage then there's stupidity.

People saying if everyone had a gun this wouldn't have happened are retarded. I'm all for concealed carry but dude is dying either way. Like Tim said I'm sure everyone panicked and it would have been near impossible to get a clear shot. The bus driver handled this 100% perfectly getting everyone off the bus and locking the crazy guy in the bus till the authorities got there.
Randy Reed
Yeah, I hate loud snorers too.
Fubar The Sperm
QUOTE (TravisG @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 11:41 AM) *
how can people be such ****ing nits. it was a knife, not a ****ing shotgun or something. just take anything sharp or heavy or even your bare fists and beat the crap out of this scum. you're 36! idiots!

i think people who dont help there should go to jail, seriously. i saw a vid recently where a man stabbed his wife in a public place and PLENTY of people were just walking by like nothing happened. some others stood by the side and just watched it, while 3 guys tried to "take him off" of her, buy kicking him with sidekicks that i can only call "pussy-kick". LOL he didn't even notice them. he just continued to stab her for like 3 minutes. somehow she survived it, but well... to me thats like assistance to murder.

(that was in the netherlands btw)

I think this response is stupid as hell. If he's stabbing the guy in the neck repeatedly he's gonna be dead pretty darn quick. Why on earth would anyone want to risk their lives to save some one who is as good as dead? Also, they are on the bus, I doubt they had any reasonable weapon to fight off this guy.
psujonn
QUOTE (RabidTortuga @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 7:55 AM) *
Um, people suck. Of all the people on the bus, no one tries to stop the nutjob?


It sounds like the guy sat in the back of the bus on purpose. Perhaps he "wanted to kill someone" and figured it would be easiest to pick off the poor guy who happened to sit the farthest back. Everyone has their back to what is about to happen and he would probably be able to get two or three deep stabs before anyone can react. I highly doubt that anyone else has a weapon handy (no, this is not the US, so there aren't guns concealed by half the passengers). Unfortunately, by then, the poor victim is already doomed: trapped at the back of the bus between a window and a crazed killer.

I hate to say it, but I think the victim never stood a chance once the maniac decided to end his life. It's just fortunate that no one else was hurt in the fiasco and he was able to be subdued and arrested.
AmScray
Since I can't carry a gun anymore, I carry a nice folding Karambit (Mantis MK1).



I don't know if I would've intervened in that spot or not- probably not, if it was clear that the other guy was already dead- but I would've unquestionably opened up both sides of his neck, his wrists, his ball sack and his Achilles tendons if he got within striking distance of me or mine. At that point, it's absolutely "you or them" and ya gotta muster your animal instincts and do what needs to be done.

I agree with all others who say that this was a totally losing situation from the start. One of those terribly unfortunate, wrong-place-wrong-time, unlucky draws for the person who got killed. Those things happen in life and there's very little you can do about them.
timwakefield
QUOTE (Flushgarden @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 3:44 PM) *
But it definitely couldnt have hurt the situation




QUOTE (timwakefield @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 3:03 PM) *
accidentally shoot a child or something?



Um...
Mercury69
Holy fuck
Royal_Tour
maybe we're missing something..

maybe the other dude who got stabbed was actually jerking off on the bus??

he might have been a homeless man, who just pulls his diick out and starts beating off..

then the guy with the knife says "comon dawg.. you hittin my elbows... just stop son...stop.."

then the homeless guy gets agitated and shoots one off hitting the guy with the knife in the forehead..

the guys screams "AHHH it burns!! I got aids!! I know it!!!"

and starts stabbing the guy in the neck.

makes the most sense
AmScray
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Sal Paradise
QUOTE (psujonn @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 4:24 PM) *
It sounds like the guy sat in the back of the bus on purpose. Perhaps he "wanted to kill someone" and figured it would be easiest to pick off the poor guy who happened to sit the farthest back. Everyone has their back to what is about to happen and he would probably be able to get two or three deep stabs before anyone can react. I highly doubt that anyone else has a weapon handy (no, this is not the US, so there aren't guns concealed by half the passengers). Unfortunately, by then, the poor victim is already doomed: trapped at the back of the bus between a window and a crazed killer.

I hate to say it, but I think the victim never stood a chance once the maniac decided to end his life. It's just fortunate that no one else was hurt in the fiasco and he was able to be subdued and arrested.

you've thought about this before haven't you.
Randy Reed
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 12:53 PM) *
you've thought about this before haven't you.


Haven't you?
aadams_22
QUOTE (Suited_Up @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 12:21 PM) *
Don't start.


QFT
Sal Paradise
QUOTE (Randy Reed @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 5:06 PM) *
Haven't you?

not on a bus, no.
Randy Reed
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 2:20 PM) *
not on a bus, no.


Oh yeah forgot it was a bus, now trains is something different.
Royal_Tour
edit. never mind..

anyways, read/watch CNN's footage and shiz. pretty crazy the way the guy describes it
grocery_mony
The lengths guys go through to get head.

you knew it was coming.

When will the airlines start letting you bring weed with you so Greyhound can go out of business?
Merby
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 4:00 PM) *
The lengths guys go through to get head.

you knew it was cumming.

When will the airlines start letting you bring weed with you so Greyhound can go out of business?


FYP

...and I feel ashamed that I laughed at this post. Such a disturbing topic...

...Perhaps some dark humour helps us cope with shit like this.
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