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TPTP
I am just wondering when ppl loose a hand how many times do you replay it in your head? Knowing the your opponents hole cards and doing this must be useful?

I want to be able to do this fluently and ascertain key info on opponents from it quickly.

Is this something that I should seriously work on!? Or is it one of those things ur either going to be able to do or not do?

Thanks
gfdsa146
QUOTE (TPTP @ Thursday, July 31st, 2008, 12:29 AM) *
I am just wondering when ppl loose a hand how many times do you replay it in your head? Knowing the your opponents hole cards and doing this must be useful?

I want to be able to do this fluently and ascertain key info on opponents from it quickly.

Is this something that I should seriously work on!? Or is it one of those things ur either going to be able to do or not do?

Thanks


Because your first topic isn't something asinine like "Who is greatest pokar plyr of all time?", I'll give you a serious response.

You should be replaying an important hand, regardless of whether you lose it or not, in your head. To some people with great memory, it should come naturally. If it doesnt come naturally, then you will have no problem working on it as you just do it more and more.

GL and welcome to FCP. Hope to see you around contributing with a PURPOSE, not randomly telling us about some "sick" hand where you saw someone run their four of a kind into a straight flush.
TPTP
Thank you kindly for your response gfdsa146.

My natural memory is not very great so it’s something I have to seriously work at. Since I started playing I've improved my hole card memory and subsequently never had take a second look at them. But tackling the board is a quite frankly much more difficult to be honest.

When thinking back on hands played, I seriously struggle with;
a. picturing the flop, turn, river
b. recalling which player bet, check, called, raised (not so bad if its just me and 1 other player)
c. returning to the hand afterwards with opponents hole cards, trying to decipher the betting pattern with the board cards from the opponents perspective.

I am good at recalling an important key aspect of a hand but its the fluency I am after and struggling to achieve. Piecing it ALL together fluently without having to skip the next hand that’s a pain in the butt ATM.

Thought I would naturally develop this with experience from normal play. Haven't found it to improve in the way I would like it to.

Any tips would be appreciated, I might be making a mountain out of a mole hill.
RabidTortuga
I know what you mean. When I first started playing live, I couldn't remember anything but the outcome of the hand. I couldn't even remember my card's suits.

I started narrating the hand in my head as I watched it. "UTG folds, old guy in red jacket limps, old guy with no teeth limps, smell guy limps, guy with mirrored sunglasses who think's he's a professional two four player reraises, standard overaggressive asian guy reraises," and so on like that. At showdown I actually say in my head, "wanna be pro with mirrored sunglasses bets with Ace high, old guy with no teeth shows 73 suited for bottom pair."

This really helped me with my reads as well as my ability to recall the hand.
TPTP
Thanks RB that makes sooo much sense and its such a simple solution!!! Can't believe I didn't think of it myself.

I was pretty bad with my hole cards when I started but much better with them now, and come to think of it to remedy this I had to start narrating my hole cards to myself to fix it!!!

Its the flop, turn and river actions on a full 10 seated table I really want to piece in fluently and tap into. I'lll give this a crack and let you know how I get on, I'll probably also memorise all the hole card phrases to visualise the narrating more positively when I get info.

Thanks
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