rabbit_killer
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:42 AM
In his May 9, 2005 Journal,
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-jour...rt_from=&ucat=&, he wrote,
I mean seriously, do they think the bad guys aren’t aware of this ridiculous excuse for profiling? Do they really think that the bad guys just randomly wake up and say, “Hey Ahmed, what do you feel like doing today?”
“Oh I dunno, feel like hijacking a plane?”
Now why the heck he thinks that the bad guys/terrorists are all from the middle east. So in his mind, he probably puts an equal sign between the terrorists and the muslims (I am not a muslim by the way).
Now in his Card player magazine article "Asian Poker Players",
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/a...4465&m_id=65553, he did praise the Asian Poker Players. But the reason he was doing so was probably because 1, he wanted to impress his Asian chicks, 2, he felt guilty about bashing Men the Master being cheater, Scotty Nuyen being whiner...
Now in his March 3rd journal,
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-jour...t_from=&ucat=1&, he wrote,
"So Milt, this big, strong, intimidating, "black guy" dropped me off at the airport with no bruises to speak of. He didn't rob me, or ask me for anything more than what we agreed upon. "
Now is he expecting every black man who helps him is going to rob him? When Phil Ivey wins a pot from him, did he use any N words?
Jordan
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:46 AM
You suck.
I think the convo coulda been ended here. I am, what else has been accomplished, minus a few facts? We still know the OP sucks.
Come on people.
- Jordan
AllenRay4
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:49 AM
you a moron
half of the things you just wrote involved words such as "he probably" and "in his mind he probably"....yeah, good one
also, the thing that looked the worst, the comment about the black guy, was in sarcastic fashion from something he said earlier in the very same blog about how people in american in general view black people, even mentioning a scene from a michael moore (shudder) movie.
you are a loser who created a thread like that to get some attn, otherwise you probably would have dealt with this in a private matter. pretty pathetic
proletartiat
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:49 AM
Dude, get over yourself.
Daniel is mocking the War on Terror, and how stupid the Bush cabal thinks the Arab world is.
And he was wondering why more asian players weren't considered as top players by the media. Pffft.
He called an african-american "black guy"! What a racist! Seriously, what sane person wouldn't fear being robbed in a strange hitching situation like that. Only a sane one.
People are too serious.
custom36
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:51 AM
I was going to respond, but you're likely a douchebag looking for attention. (Meaning, I know you're a douchebag and I think you're doing this for attention)
ghoti7four
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:51 AM
Seems like you're a little sensitive? I don't know DN, but looks like you're taking him out of context... maybe the third comment is a little insensitive, but just because people are sometimes intimidated by difference doesn't mean they aren't trying to accept people as they are. No one's perfect you should lighten up...
Also the first comment is a joke--which doesn't suggest that all terrorists are Arabs or Muslims, in fact it suggests that purposefully stopping Middle Eastern "looking" people is probably a poor way to randomly catch a terrorist.
just my couple of cents.
Tparks86
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:52 AM
You Suck.
Is that all you can think of doing with your time. Basically Daniel's being an honest person. Most people would think the same things he's said in the quotes you've collected. Most terrorists are from the middle east. Fact. That doesn't mean all people from the middle east are terrorists, nor was he making that connection. Get a life.
ghoti7four
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:52 AM
and you suck
Absolute
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:53 AM
QUOTE (ghoti7four)
and you suck
word
i need to get out of this town!
shortfuze
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:54 AM
This is a perfect example of how things can be taken out of context in order to create controversy and the very reason its so hard to believe anything on the news anymore, not to mention the internet. did you even read the rest of the articles/blogs that you quoted from?
tskillz187
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:55 AM
QUOTE (proletartiat)
Dude, get over yourself.
Daniel is mocking the War on Terror, and how stupid the Bush cabal thinks the Arab world is.
And he was wondering why more asian players weren't considered as top players by the media. Pffft.
He called an african-american "black guy"! What a censored! Seriously, what sane person wouldn't fear being robbed in a strange hitching situation like that. Only a sane one.
People are too serious.
I think DN's point was that he didn't fear being robbed, even if in a hitchiking situation with the clearly criminal black man <----- SARCASM He wrote it to show that people in America make too many stereotypes and that people should realize that most people are civil!
ghoti7four
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:55 AM
and a clarifying point for everybody (before the OP makes it):
Most "terrorists" are not Middle Eastern... Many of the terrorists we are currently concerned with are Middle Eastern--There are many many more countries in the world and terrorism exists in many forms (particularly depending on whose point of view you're using)...
just thought I'd add that... the OP still sucks.
ghoti7four
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:56 AM
we being Americans. sorry everyone else. and also sorry to the reasonable Americans.
faketree
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:56 AM
you think Daniel's comments were offensive?
check this out...
Rob-L
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:56 AM
Not sure what the point of rabbit_killer's original post was, but as far as Daniel going on about:
1) If you book your flight late, that’s a strike against you.
2) If you pay cash, that’s strike two.
3) If you book a one way flight, that’s strike three.
4) If you change your flight, that’s strike four!
Well, those red flags are in direct response to how the 9-11 hijackers operated.
Not that I think that system can't be beaten, but numbers 1-3 are exactly how those hijackers did their thing.
But, I'll agree that they'd be stupid to try it that way again and that random checks should be more random.
nealdo17
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:58 AM
The OP is like a Michael Moore film! Taking snipits out of context and flaming away. Great job doucheclown faggot
ghoti7four
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 8:58 AM
Also, you kill rabbits? what a DICK.
Absolute
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:00 AM
OP kills rabbits
Swift_Psycho
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:01 AM
Ya caught us. This forum is actually a secret r@cist organization pretending to be poker players. I told you guys Daniel would slip up some time. Now look what happened. They're on to us.
tskillz187
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:02 AM
QUOTE (nealdo17)
The OP is like a Michael Moore film! Taking snipits out of context and flaming away. Great job doucheclown faggot
See now I just htink the poster is an idiot, kind of like GDub (must throw in my liberal stance, but am now done with all politics on this thread)
iveyfan30
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:02 AM
QUOTE (rabbit_killer)
In his May 9, 2005 Journal,
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-jour...rt_from=&ucat=&, he wrote,
I mean seriously, do they think the bad guys aren’t aware of this ridiculous excuse for profiling? Do they really think that the bad guys just randomly wake up and say, “Hey Ahmed, what do you feel like doing today?”
“Oh I dunno, feel like hijacking a plane?”
Now why the heck he thinks that the bad guys/terrorists are all from the middle east. So in his mind, he probably puts an equal sign between the terrorists and the muslims (I am not a muslim by the way).
Now in his Card player magazine article "Asian Poker Players",
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/a...4465&m_id=65553, he did praise the Asian Poker Players. But the reason he was doing so was probably because 1, he wanted to impress his Asian chicks, 2, he felt guilty about bashing Men the Master being cheater, Scotty Nuyen being whiner...
Now in his March 3rd journal,
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-jour...t_from=&ucat=1&, he wrote,
"So Milt, this big, strong, intimidating, "black guy" dropped me off at the airport with no bruises to speak of. He didn't rob me, or ask me for anything more than what we agreed upon. "
Now is he expecting every black man who helps him is going to rob him? When Phil Ivey wins a pot from him, did he use any N words?
dn does use a n word when ivey wins a pit from him.....NICE hand..
tskillz187
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:03 AM
I think we all have agreement that this is the worst post ever... it should be deleted
catch87
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:09 AM
Maybe I missed it but I don't know if anyone commented on the announcer spouting off "Show tunes must be going off in Daniel's head" during the WPT show a while back when he flopped a great hand.
Not that there's anything wrong with show tunes. But without trying to offend anyone, when mentioned in context relating to the male gender, it usually implies that perhaps the male being referred to may be exibiting a bit more of his feminine side than what is usually considered hetero.
The announcer's name escapes me right now, but he has used the term "...going off in his/her head" in a way that usually generalizes where the player is from or their percieved actions.
I just wonder if this particular announcer was trying to generalize his opinion of how he percieves Daniel.
I realize this is off topic a bit, but it does sort of fit in with the OP's reference to profiling.
JimD82
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:12 AM
QUOTE (rabbit_killer)
In his May 9, 2005 Journal,
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-jour...rt_from=&ucat=&, he wrote,
I mean seriously, do they think the bad guys aren’t aware of this ridiculous excuse for profiling? Do they really think that the bad guys just randomly wake up and say, “Hey Ahmed, what do you feel like doing today?”
“Oh I dunno, feel like hijacking a plane?”
Now why the heck he thinks that the bad guys/terrorists are all from the middle east. So in his mind, he probably puts an equal sign between the terrorists and the muslims (I am not a muslim by the way).
Now in his Card player magazine article "Asian Poker Players",
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/a...4465&m_id=65553, he did praise the Asian Poker Players. But the reason he was doing so was probably because 1, he wanted to impress his Asian chicks, 2, he felt guilty about bashing Men the Master being cheater, Scotty Nuyen being whiner...
Now in his March 3rd journal,
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-jour...t_from=&ucat=1&, he wrote,
"So Milt, this big, strong, intimidating, "black guy" dropped me off at the airport with no bruises to speak of. He didn't rob me, or ask me for anything more than what we agreed upon. "
Now is he expecting every black man who helps him is going to rob him? When Phil Ivey wins a pot from him, did he use any N words?
Go to hell you grandstanding a s s hole. Terrorists are pretty much all arabs whether that's politically correct or not. Doesn't mean Daniel thinks all arabs are terrorists. And to think that you know his motivations for saying or writing anything is rediculous. I hope you choke.
A. Holmberg
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:14 AM
Darn trolls, absolutely nothing of what Daniel said was racist in any way.
custom36
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:17 AM
QUOTE (nealdo17)
The OP is like a Michael Moore film! Taking snipits out of context and flaming away. Great job doucheclown faggot
I don't know what's worse. The OP or this message. Some people need to grow up.
SAM_Hard8
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:17 AM
QUOTE (Swift_Psycho)
Ya caught us. This forum is actually a secret r@cist organization pretending to be poker players. I told you guys Daniel would slip up some time. Now look what happened. They're on to us.
Looks like I will have to leave my white sheet and pointed hat at home now!
faketree
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:18 AM
QUOTE (JimD82)
Go to hell you grandstanding censored hole. Terrorists are pretty much all arabs whether that's politically correct or not. Doesn't mean Daniel thinks all arabs are terrorists. And to think that you know his motivations for saying or writing anything is rediculous. I hope you choke.
while i'm trying to duck away from this stupid topic and add a little humor to it, this statement just struck me.
that is complete nonsense if you believe that most terrorists are arabs. there are quite a few catholic terrorists in ireland. many korean terrorists in north and south korea. there are even quite a few american terrorists like timothy mcveigh and the likes. there are even jewish terrorists and japanese and chinese terrorists.
lumping most terrorists into a nationality is quite dangerous and i hope that you rethink your original statement.
guinevar
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:19 AM
This guy had no brains and was just looking for attention. I hope this is the last bump so we can let this thread die.
SAM_Hard8
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:20 AM
Oh and btw
rabbit_killer, you do suck.
I can just see you pooring over everything DN has said looking for anything you can get offended about. "oh, oh I found another one" then you cum in your pants!
JimD82
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:30 AM
QUOTE (faketree)
QUOTE (JimD82)
Go to hell you grandstanding censored hole. Terrorists are pretty much all arabs whether that's politically correct or not. Doesn't mean Daniel thinks all arabs are terrorists. And to think that you know his motivations for saying or writing anything is rediculous. I hope you choke.
while i'm trying to duck away from this stupid topic and add a little humor to it, this statement just struck me.
that is complete nonsense if you believe that most terrorists are arabs. there are quite a few catholic terrorists in ireland. many korean terrorists in north and south korea. there are even quite a few american terrorists like timothy mcveigh and the likes. there are even jewish terrorists and japanese and chinese terrorists.
lumping most terrorists into a nationality is quite dangerous and i hope that you rethink your original statement.
Oh really? No kidding. I was referring to the terrorists that we're at war with. The ones that killed a few thousand Americans were all arabs. I don't really care if saying that offends anyone. I'm also well aware that 'terrorism' can be a relative term depending on one's point of view.
Oneeydjaq
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:34 AM
First of all, you really aren't going to raise any eyebrows about DN on his own website by calling him a racist. The forum is comprised mostly by his fans, who I would venture to say are going to be more loyal to him than some racial activist looking to take a shot at someone of Daniel's integrity. Secondly, for people from the Middle East, its nothing personal to you as an individual that people from the Middle East be referenced to when the topic of terrorism is brought up. I don't hear too many Americans causing an uproar when they are called war mongers or arrogant bullies of the western world, despite the fact that the vast majority of Americans have personally never set foot off of US soil in defense of the nation or to achieve any political agenda. Just deal with it. As for the asian poker player reference. Have you read any tournament chip total board or watched much poker on TV. Many times it looks like a phonebook straight out of some Far Eastern nation. The "big black guy" reference. Come on, how would you describe Shaquielle Oneal? and if you were DN in that situation I am sure you would be a little wary of being robbed too, I don't think DN is going to win many back alley brawls, although he may win all his money back at the poker table if they made the mistake of sitting with him. I am sure DN was trying to make a joke in the lofty spirit with which he does many things, and trying to get a laugh for himself and the forum readers. So laugh at the idiocy of the airline security selection process, and save your overly analytical mannerisms for the poker table where they will serve you well.
B
Heaton
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:38 AM
Wow, blinders galore.
superchuck
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:45 AM
i feel sorry for rabbit killer actually, he probably expected some support on thsi one. talk about one colossal backfire of a post.
DefecatingDeer
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 9:54 AM
Maybe the airline industry has a secret hatred of Romanian poker players.
Daniel know what's up!
I have nothing else to contribute. It's pointless having a political debate with people who aren't even OPEN to civil, rational discussion.
troy5168
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 10:14 AM
QUOTE (rabbit_killer)
In his May 9, 2005 Journal,
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-jour...rt_from=&ucat=&, he wrote,
I mean seriously, do they think the bad guys aren’t aware of this ridiculous excuse for profiling? Do they really think that the bad guys just randomly wake up and say, “Hey Ahmed, what do you feel like doing today?”
“Oh I dunno, feel like hijacking a plane?”
Now why the heck he thinks that the bad guys/terrorists are all from the middle east. So in his mind, he probably puts an equal sign between the terrorists and the muslims (I am not a muslim by the way).
Now in his Card player magazine article "Asian Poker Players",
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/a...4465&m_id=65553, he did praise the Asian Poker Players. But the reason he was doing so was probably because 1, he wanted to impress his Asian chicks, 2, he felt guilty about bashing Men the Master being cheater, Scotty Nuyen being whiner...
Now in his March 3rd journal,
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-jour...t_from=&ucat=1&, he wrote,
"So Milt, this big, strong, intimidating, "black guy" dropped me off at the airport with no bruises to speak of. He didn't rob me, or ask me for anything more than what we agreed upon. "
Now is he expecting every black man who helps him is going to rob him? When Phil Ivey wins a pot from him, did he use any N words?
give me a break! Don't you think you're being a little too sensitive and carrying this a little to far?
budfox427
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 10:15 AM
to the OP, here is something that might help:
1. Bend over
2. Glab both buttcheeks firmly and pull to each side
3. Remove head
4. Feel the wave of relief wash over you
5. Reread the post and scratch head in disbelief
ticccal
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 10:20 AM
I have posted in the past about some racial insensitivities on the part of WPT TV coverage , etc......But this is just stupid. You are the reason people think anyone who believes something is racist is overreacting. THIS is the definition of political correctness.....And you give the guy who made the ridiculous Michael Moore comparison a weapon to deligitimize real critique. Read a book, think, read somemore, talk to somebody, and don't act like a reactionary.
harvey
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 10:21 AM
Daniel probably used the name Ahmed because two of the suspected hijackers were named Ahmed. His joke was about the hijackers, so it would make sense to use that name.
Also, while it is true that US is focusing on middle eastern terrorists at the present time, that in no way means that most of the terrorism in the world comes from arabs. The definition of terrorist, no matter how you look at, is not: person who wants to hurt the US.
DJ_Chaps
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 10:28 AM
Even ur average Arab will tell you they have the most terrorists in ummm, circulation, if u will.
ticccal
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 10:31 AM
This is true....Most of the terrorism in the world is commited by Arabs. That is not to say that most Arabs are terrorist ( a tiny fraction) nor that there aren't non Arab terrorists, but as a percentage most terrorism is commited by Arabs..
Scanner313
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 11:24 AM
Boy, Daniel better not get involved with the Barry Greenstein = Count Chocula post or the argument will all come together! He'll be branded an anti-Arab, anti-Asian (except to impress the chicks), anti-black AND an anti-semite.
Honestly though, I was very slightly tweaked by his comments regarding "Ahmed" and "black guy". But once I put the entire article into perspective I didn't get any impression that DN is in any way racist. In fact, the entire frist section of one of those 2 articles talks about how Toronto is a melting pot which gave him a respect for all cultures. His choice of words may have been a little skewed, but they certainly didn't lend themselves to painting him a racist.
Scanner313
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 11:36 AM
[quote=Scanner313]...but they certainly didn't lend themselves to painting him a censored
Can someone explain to me why the word "r a c i s t" is censored on this forum? Is that a bad word to use in and of itself? I don't get it.
Jubba
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 11:39 AM
QUOTE (SAM_Hard8)
QUOTE (Swift_Psycho)
Ya caught us. This forum is actually a secret r@cist organization pretending to be poker players. I told you guys Daniel would slip up some time. Now look what happened. They're on to us.
Looks like I will have to leave my white sheet and pointed hat at home now!
and all those lower case 't's we spent all last week nailing together...
MDXS
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 11:39 AM
QUOTE
This is true....Most of the terrorism in the world is commited by Arabs. That is not to say that most Arabs are terrorist ( a tiny fraction) nor that there aren't non Arab terrorists, but as a percentage most terrorism is commited by Arabs..
Could we have a source on this?
messingTexass
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 11:42 AM
[quote=Scanner313][quote=Scanner313]...but they certainly didn't lend themselves to painting him a censored
Can someone explain to me why the word "r a c i s t" is censored on this forum? Is that a bad word to use in and of itself? I don't get it.[/quote]
Hey, the word racist won't be censored.
not even if something like "fuck", "shit", etc...
You must had talked something really really bad about him!
BC4Jesus
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 11:42 AM
QUOTE (rabbit_killer)
In his May 9, 2005 Journal,
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-jour...rt_from=&ucat=&, he wrote,
I mean seriously, do they think the bad guys aren’t aware of this ridiculous excuse for profiling? Do they really think that the bad guys just randomly wake up and say, “Hey Ahmed, what do you feel like doing today?”
“Oh I dunno, feel like hijacking a plane?”
Now why the heck he thinks that the bad guys/terrorists are all from the middle east. So in his mind, he probably puts an equal sign between the terrorists and the muslims (I am not a muslim by the way).
Now in his Card player magazine article "Asian Poker Players",
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/a...4465&m_id=65553, he did praise the Asian Poker Players. But the reason he was doing so was probably because 1, he wanted to impress his Asian chicks, 2, he felt guilty about bashing Men the Master being cheater, Scotty Nuyen being whiner...
Now in his March 3rd journal,
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-jour...t_from=&ucat=1&, he wrote,
"So Milt, this big, strong, intimidating, "black guy" dropped me off at the airport with no bruises to speak of. He didn't rob me, or ask me for anything more than what we agreed upon. "
Now is he expecting every black man who helps him is going to rob him? When Phil Ivey wins a pot from him, did he use any N words?
Your comments are completely uncalled for. Daniel is not making remarks in either of the journal articles you mentioned that are even remotely linked to racism. It is because of the attitude of people like you that there are so many unneccessary lawsuits regarding discrimination in our court systems today. Not that some aren't warranted, but the "cry racism" mindset has got to go. We are all God's children and He loves us all equally.
Don't mean to get "preachy", but that's just my honest opinion.
PMJackson21
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 11:46 AM
QUOTE (MDXS)
QUOTE
This is true....Most of the terrorism in the world is commited by Arabs. That is not to say that most Arabs are terrorist ( a tiny fraction) nor that there aren't non Arab terrorists, but as a percentage most terrorism is commited by Arabs..
Could we have a source on this?
I think you can find it at:
www.whoneedsfactswhenyoucanjustmakeupstatistics.com
Patrick
GhostfaceKillah
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 11:49 AM
Long Live Mark Fuhrman :shock:
SAM_Hard8
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005, 12:11 PM
QUOTE (Jubba)
QUOTE (SAM_Hard8)
QUOTE (Swift_Psycho)
Ya caught us. This forum is actually a secret r@cist organization pretending to be poker players. I told you guys Daniel would slip up some time. Now look what happened. They're on to us.
Looks like I will have to leave my white sheet and pointed hat at home now!
and all those lower case 't's we spent all last week nailing together...
Dang I forgot about those!
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