Full Tilt Poker Game #7321541478: Table Egret (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:05:22 ET - 2008/07/21
Seat 1: ScottHaberkamp ($152.05)
Seat 2: YoshiYashiki ($46.25)
Seat 3: Riddler32 ($108.55)
Seat 4: 00lexvegas00 ($102.90)
Seat 5: lostnutzcase ($76.15)
Seat 6: LivesUndrBridge ($100)
ScottHaberkamp posts the small blind of $0.50
YoshiYashiki posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lostnutzcase [Tc Jc]
Riddler32 raises to $3.50
00lexvegas00 folds
lostnutzcase calls $3.50
LivesUndrBridge has 15 seconds left to act
LivesUndrBridge folds
ScottHaberkamp folds
YoshiYashiki calls $2.50
*** FLOP *** [6s Th Jh]
YoshiYashiki checks
Riddler32 checks
lostnutzcase bets $8
YoshiYashiki has 15 seconds left to act
YoshiYashiki raises to $42.75, and is all in hero????? im like 70 % sure it's a set (he insta-checked the flop )

I'm not folding top 2 there, its unlikely he has jj or 1010 because you have one of each, maybe 66 but there are a lot of combo draws that can shove here as well, or more possible than a set is he could have the same hand. I'd call then puke in my mouth when showed 66.

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70% sure he has a set? lol ok if you are that sure then you can easily fold, but I don't understand how you can be that sure.

No way I'm folding though.

I would fold...... before the flop


never fold that flop though

im getting so many top 2 vs set situations lately it's sick ....but i think it's more likely to call a raise from utg with a pocket pair trying to hit a set .Especially if ur out of position and short stacked.

you beat so much of his range u have to call he shows up with set there less than 20% of the time but if you have 70% read than easy fold right (wrong never fold espically against short stack

Hang on, what did Riddler do in the hand? Did he fold?

This is a snap-call. And depending on how loose villain is, I 3bet this a fair amount preflop, assuming he opens a decent range UTG (as long as he isn't a nit). With the heavy drawiness of this board and the fact that he can rarely have JJ/TT because of what you hold, this is an absolute fistpump snapcall. If he has 66, you STILL have 4 outs and you are very likely to be ahead a large percentage of the time.

well i did call and puke......i just want to know if it's possible to fold top 2 or should i just take it as a cooler ?

It's possible to fold top two when there's a very good reason to believe you're beaten. This is not one of those times. You should be giggling when you snap call here.

http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

I'd call most likely, but ISAP

I keep harping on two pair hands and their utter vulnerability.
I played this am for a little bit.
First hand AJ on the button.
I raise to 4BB and get a call from BB.
Flop is AJ8
checks, I bet, he raises I shove and surprise it's 888.
but you can't fold top two in a raised PF pot
villains show up with overpair, draws, TPTK, w/e enough to make shoving top two profitable over time.

You seriously fold probably the best suited connector preflop in position to a standard raise? Why?



And yeah, you never fold top two on a drawy flop.

What about on a very dry board eliminating any reasonable draws for villain?

I still think this is a snap-call on a dry board. Villain has an overpair here more often than anything else, IMO. Sets are certainly part of his range, but depending on villain's tendencies I would put the range at something like

50% overpair
15% sets
20% big draw
10% tptk
5% bluff

Obv.

no way villain has an overpair ......why would u flat call a raise out of position against 2 other players and short stacked ?

LOL.

It seemed like flat calling a PF raise and jamming the flop or turn was the way to play AA KK from Jan 08 to May 08. It's not as bad recently as it was for a while there.

Unless you have a read, against an unknown, it is possible although not likely. There are a lot of terrible players out there who would try to "trap" OOP with an overpair.

And as played, I get it all-in - just a cooler.