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Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: $132.90
SB: $102.85
BB: $106.00
UTG: $194.60
Hero (CO): $100.00

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with 7 icon_suit_spade.gif 8 icon_suit_spade.gif
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) T icon_suit_spade.gif 6 icon_suit_spade.gif J icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB calls $5

Turn: ($17.50) Q icon_suit_spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $17.50, Hero calls $17.50

River: ($52.50) 5 icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks


Villain is 50/10/1 over 10 hands.

Should I raise the turn?
Value bet river?
NoBBiR
I think I would value bet $30 on the river and be confused if he shoved. Honestly after the turn when he checks the river, I really assume he has something like 89, K9,AsQd, poorly played AK, etc.

I think checking the river is a mistake.
staggo
QUOTE (SCS @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 4:45 PM) *
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: $132.90
SB: $102.85
BB: $106.00
UTG: $194.60
Hero (CO): $100.00

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with 7 icon_suit_spade.gif 8 icon_suit_spade.gif
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) T icon_suit_spade.gif 6 icon_suit_spade.gif J icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB calls $5

Turn: ($17.50) Q icon_suit_spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $17.50, Hero calls $17.50

River: ($52.50) 5 icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
Villain is 50/10/1 over 10 hands.

Should I raise the turn?
Value bet river?



I usually would raise the turn here........as played how do you check behind that riv? Bet 25-30
Giggidy
QUOTE (staggo @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 9:54 PM) *
I usually would raise the turn here........as played how do you check behind that riv? Bet 25-30
TrueAce13
Raise turn. Bet river.

He isn't checking a better flush there on the river, why not get value?
ChuckP
QUOTE (TrueAce13 @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 4:08 PM) *
Raise turn. Bet river.

He isn't checking a better flush there on the river, why not get value?


I do not know about raising the turn. Raising the turn could get you to lose value on the river, obviously not in this case because it was checked. If I raise on the turn, I make it a min-raise knowing that I have the best hand.
SwolyswoND
QUOTE (TrueAce13 @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 5:08 PM) *
Raise turn. Bet river.

He isn't checking a better flush there on the river, why not get value?


I don't agree with raising the turn, I think because we are in position that the flat call is correct. This will give villain one more chance to bluff with hands that he won't call value bets with on the river, and also minimizes our losses in the event that we are beaten.

I certainly agree that we value bet that river, though. 25-30 sounds about right.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (SCS @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 12:45 PM) *
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Should I raise the turn?
Value bet river?



Villain almost always has turned a straight here and is testing for a flush.
I think about a 25% to 30% pot bet is payable for him on the river.
If he shoves over us, we really have to think about it. Our flush is very low.
Dictius
Raising the turn is likely to fold every hand that is not a flush.

I'm definitely value betting the river for some amount a straight/2pair can make a crying call with, $25-30.

What's the plan if villain led pot again on the river? Probably just call?
krup24
i think checking the river is horrid here. get some freakn value. his river check is not a surrender it's a please don't bet a lot cause i want a showdown. if he raises it gets tougher but this is a clear bet imo. i would even expect AJ to call most bets.
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