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digitalmonkey
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/07/k...ng-thieves-bay/
gruven
You, sir, have too much time on your hands...
Jason12
The cup itself has actually been away from its rightful owners for over 40 years.
dEv~
QUOTE (Jason12 @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 11:01 AM) *
The cup itself has actually been away from its rightful owners for over 40 years.


riiight
serge
QUOTE (Jason12 @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 8:01 AM) *
The cup itself has actually been away from its rightful owners for over 40 years.


This is definetely a correct statement...The centre of the hockey universe, the hockey hall of fame, NHL offices and the greatest fans in the world reside here...


Enough said.
gruven
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 7:37 AM) *
This is definetely a correct statement...The centre of the hockey universe, the hockey hall of fame, NHL offices and the greatest fans in the world reside here...
Enough said.

Actually, the cup has been away from it's rightful owners since 1947. But that's a completely different story. You'll have to dig up the story that Mark Brender and I did on the ownership of the Stanley Cup about three or four years ago..
serge
QUOTE (gruven @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 8:54 AM) *
Actually, the cup has been away from it's rightful owners since 1947. But that's a completely different story. You'll have to dig up the story that Mark Brender and I did on the ownership of the Stanley Cup about three or four years ago..


looking for it as we speak
Fubar The Sperm
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 11:56 AM) *
looking for it as we speak

Link?
serge
QUOTE (Fubar The Sperm @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 9:24 AM) *
Link?


couldnt find it
fryer98
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 11:37 AM) *
This is definetely a correct statement...The centre of the hockey universe, the hockey hall of fame, NHL offices and the greatest fans in the world reside here...
Enough said.

It's too bad the team is the only one that can win it...none of the things you list, eh? icon_biggrin.gif
digitalmonkey
QUOTE (gruven @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 11:54 AM) *
Actually, the cup has been away from it's rightful owners since 1947. But that's a completely different story. You'll have to dig up the story that Mark Brender and I did on the ownership of the Stanley Cup about three or four years ago..



http://www.lawyersweekly.ca/index.php?sect...mp;articleid=94
gruven
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 5:20 PM) *

Very nice research.......... I worked with Gilbert LLP on this...... they eventually forced the NHL into an out of court settlement that saw the NHL ship millions to amateur hockey in Canada...
coesillian
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The application raises interesting issues for the NHL. If the Stanley Cup is not a charitable purpose trust, then the trust fails and the property reverts to the grantor, and outside the control of the NHL. As Lord Stanley was Governor General when he gave the cup, the cup may revert back to the Office of the Governor General. In this way the cup may truly belong to the people of Canada.
QUOTE (gruven @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 11:09 PM) *
Very nice research.......... I worked with Gilbert LLP on this...... they eventually forced the NHL into an out of court settlement that saw the NHL ship millions to amateur hockey in Canada...


what does that mean that they shipped millions to Canadian Hockey. Does Canada own the rights to the cup? If there were to be another lock-out/ strike, could the cup be contended for outside the NHL?
gruven
Yes, it could be contended for outside the NHL. And, an interesting sidebar that we never got the chance to explore: If the Stanley Cup was purchased out of the household expense money of the governor general (lord stanley), then it would STILL be the property of the Canadian Government. The prime minister is a hockey historian who is writing a book, and I mentioned this to him while chatting, and he said he was going to follow it up. He would have access to those old records and accounts...
copernicus
Mr Cupp's parents had a very wicked sense of humor.
coesillian
good stuff gruven, you're full of usefullness.

thanks.
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