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CaneBrain
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3471189


damn, Tony Kornheiser might have nailed this one. I think the chances of him playing this year just went from 1% to 33%.
Oziumrules
He wont be back in GB, maybe with another team. GB doesnt want him back.
govikes
welcome to minnesnowda mr. favre
SuitedAces21
i absolutely hate this guy.

seriously, you arent that good.

i hope he gets hit by a truck.
WKTSWAY
From what I read, he wants back, but GB doesn't want him back so he asked to be released. They did not release him...
CaneBrain
QUOTE (WKTSWAY @ Wednesday, July 2nd, 2008, 2:25 PM) *
From what I read, he wants back, but GB doesn't want him back so he asked to be released. They did not release him...


GB is stupid then. I agree with SuitedAces that Favre is overrated (and has been for a while). Still, you know he makes them a better team and it would energize the fan base.
SBriand
I would gladly welcome Brett to the Lions if it meant getting Kitna out of here. Maybe then I would be half a fan.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, May 28th, 2008, 11:34 AM) *





CaneBrain
interesting article on Brett Favre (and his George Foreman like commitment to retiring):

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writ...ex.html?eref=T1
brvheart
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Monday, July 7th, 2008, 1:32 PM) *
interesting article on Brett Favre (and his George Foreman like commitment to retiring):

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writ...ex.html?eref=T1



Boxers should never be brought up in this context because 90% of them are like that.
Loismustdie
QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Wednesday, July 2nd, 2008, 2:40 PM) *
i absolutely hate this guy.

seriously, you arent that good.

i hope he gets hit by a truck.





Loves Shias acting skillz and thinks Brett Farve isn't all that good.

Seriously, you are dumb as ****, but I like you anyway.
CaneBrain
This saga just got a LOT more interesting.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483521
savagerebel
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Tuesday, July 8th, 2008, 8:22 PM) *
Loves Shias acting skillz and thinks Brett Farve isn't all that good.

Seriously, you are dumb as ****, but I like you anyway.

I hate to bring this up again.
Loismustdie
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Friday, July 11th, 2008, 1:08 PM) *
This saga just got a LOT more interesting.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483521




I wonder if something happened in the last 18 months that A, lit a fire under Bretts ass to play his ass off and B, play this whole game to embarass the Packers management? I suppose it's possible. Bretts a proud guy, and I know they were pushing him towards retirement not so long ago.
Loismustdie
QUOTE (savagerebel @ Friday, July 11th, 2008, 2:00 PM) *




It's the truth. That guy blows.
CaneBrain
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Friday, July 11th, 2008, 1:03 PM) *
I wonder if something happened in the last 18 months that A, lit a fire under Bretts ass to play his ass off and B, play this whole game to embarass the Packers management? I suppose it's possible. Bretts a proud guy, and I know they were pushing him towards retirement not so long ago.



Yeah. I think it is potentially going to be a sad sad situation. Brett Favre is like a god in Green Bay and I am only exaggerating slightly. It would be a shame if he ruined it in his twilight.....especially if he ends up in Minnesota or Chitown.

My money is on GB convincing Brett to be traded to the AFC (most likely the Ravens who apparently are interested).
Loismustdie
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Friday, July 11th, 2008, 2:13 PM) *
Yeah. I think it is potentially going to be a sad sad situation. Brett Favre is like a god in Green Bay and I am only exaggerating slightly. It would be a shame if he ruined it in his twilight.....especially if he ends up in Minnesota or Chitown.

My money is on GB convincing Brett to be traded to the AFC (most likely the Ravens who apparently are interested).




My money is he pushes for an unconditional release and goes where he wants, probably Minnesota with there sweet O- line, running game, upgraded defense and assistant Brett worked with back in the day. He has all the power right now- the Pack can't trade him, they will look bad. Simple as that.
BigDMcGee
As a bears fan, I am torn about the prospect of having favre. On one hand, it's about 3 years too late and I hate him more than any player in any sport, and it might give me physical pain to root for him. On the other hand, the idea that it would put the favre worshiping packers fans in even more pain to see him as a bear. I guess I'll just root for him signing with the vikings, so I can both root against him, and delight in packer fan's pain.
HollywoodAFD
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Friday, July 11th, 2008, 4:49 PM) *
My money is he pushes for an unconditional release and goes where he wants, probably Minnesota with there sweet O- line, running game, upgraded defense and assistant Brett worked with back in the day. He has all the power right now- the Pack can't trade him, they will look bad. Simple as that.

True dat
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Friday, July 11th, 2008, 2:32 PM) *
As a bears fan, I am torn about the prospect of having favre. On one hand, it's about 3 years too late and I hate him more than any player in any sport, and it might give me physical pain to root for him. On the other hand, the idea that it would put the favre worshiping packers fans in even more pain to see him as a bear. I guess I'll just root for him signing with the vikings, so I can both root against him, and delight in packer fan's pain.


I'm totally rooting for him to sign a three-year contract with the Bears, and then warm the bench and make an ass out of himself. The funny thing is that I really love Farve; he just looks like a completely weathered badass out there, and the fact that he's a junkie makes him that much more awesome to me. But the Farve-worshipers are such hayseed retards that it would be awesome to watch him play for their rival and tarnish his legacy.
CaneBrain
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Friday, July 11th, 2008, 1:49 PM) *
My money is he pushes for an unconditional release and goes where he wants, probably Minnesota with there sweet O- line, running game, upgraded defense and assistant Brett worked with back in the day. He has all the power right now- the Pack can't trade him, they will look bad. Simple as that.



I think the Packers will make him sit the bench behind Rodgers before they let him go unconditionally.

He does not have all the power. He really doesn't.
YonYonson
Goddammit I hate that sonofabitch.

Next thing you know they'll be breaking into live TV to tell us when he's taking a shit.
BigDMcGee
One good thing about this, is we can look forward to lots of great Favre moments, and Favre Memories.. like this one..


QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, May 28th, 2008, 11:34 AM) *





HollywoodAFD
QUOTE (YonYonson @ Saturday, July 12th, 2008, 12:10 PM) *
Goddammit I hate that sonofabitch.

Next thing you know they'll be breaking into live TV to tell us when he's taking a shit.

Did you know he never missed a day of school?


From preschool through college.... not 1 day.


We should get a day off from work for him... Brett Favre Day.
leftygolfer
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Saturday, July 12th, 2008, 2:06 PM) *
One good thing about this, is we can look forward to lots of great Favre moments, and Favre Memories.. like this one..



Here's some more BigD:



dEv~
He's not going to tarnish his legacy. Rice and Montana didn't finish in San Francisco. Say what you will about him, Favre is one of the best and anything he does over the next 1-2-3... seasons isn't going to change that.

Having said all that I don't want to see him play anywhere next year.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (dEv~ @ Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 6:52 AM) *
He's not going to tarnish his legacy. Rice and Montana didn't finish in San Francisco. Say what you will about him, Favre is one of the best and anything he does over the next 1-2-3... seasons isn't going to change that.

Having said all that I don't want to see him play anywhere next year.



how about what he's done over the last 5-6 seasons?
CaneBrain
QUOTE (dEv~ @ Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 6:52 AM) *
He's not going to tarnish his legacy. Rice and Montana didn't finish in San Francisco. Say what you will about him, Favre is one of the best and anything he does over the next 1-2-3... seasons isn't going to change that.

Having said all that I don't want to see him play anywhere next year.



He should play if he wants to. But he should not be surprised that Green Bay mgmt is pissed about this will he, wont he game. If they start him and he plays one more year and retires......and Rodgers is upset and does not re-sign.....then the packers have really screwed themselves. It is a delicate balance. If Brohm shows some good signs in training camp that would help a lot. Then Rodgers leaving is not the end of the world perhaps.

I dont really think Favre deserves to mentioned in tier one, Joe Montana territory anymore. A real examination of his last half-decade shows that he was a very middling QB except for last year. And he keeps losing home games in the playoffs.
CBass1724
I'm definitely going to have to buy a #4 Redskins jersey after Snyder goes out and gets him.

The weird thing is, I am kind of on board for him doing that. I like Jason Campbell and he is a nice player, but Brett Favre he is not. We have lots more weapons on offense than GB does (Moss, El, Cooley, Portis, Devin Thomas/Malcom Kelly) so he would do just fine here IMO.
Jadaki
QUOTE (CBass1724 @ Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 3:41 PM) *
I'm definitely going to have to buy a #4 Redskins jersey after Snyder goes out and gets him.


Please do, it would offer the Dallas defense a chance to knock him out of two games this year.
Sportsmack
QUOTE (CBass1724 @ Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 1:41 PM) *
I'm definitely going to have to buy a #4 Redskins jersey after Snyder goes out and gets him.

The weird thing is, I am kind of on board for him doing that. I like Jason Campbell and he is a nice player, but Brett Favre he is not. We have lots more weapons on offense than GB does (Moss, El, Cooley, Portis, Devin Thomas/Malcom Kelly) so he would do just fine here IMO.


As a die-hard Skins fan, I would absolutely hate to see this happen. I'm ready to move on with the JC era. He deserves it after having had to wait through the horrible Brunell period. No Favre to the Skins pleeeeeeeeeeeeease Snyder.
BigDMcGee
There's only one team i want to see him play for....



The Autumn Wind is a Favre.
HollywoodAFD
QUOTE (Sportsmack @ Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 6:27 PM) *
As a die-hard Skins fan, I would absolutely hate to see this happen. I'm ready to move on with the JC era. He deserves it after having had to wait through the horrible Brunell period. No Favre to the Skins pleeeeeeeeeeeeease Snyder.

Skins could use a Favre though
CBass1724
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 4:57 PM) *
Please do, it would offer the Dallas defense a chance to knock him out of two games this year.

<3 da 'boys

QUOTE (Sportsmack @ Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 7:27 PM) *
As a die-hard Skins fan, I would absolutely hate to see this happen. I'm ready to move on with the JC era. He deserves it after having had to wait through the horrible Brunell period. No Favre to the Skins pleeeeeeeeeeeeease Snyder.

Yeah I know it would be the wrong thing to do. But if it happened, I wouldn't hate it. Besides, who else is going to groom COLT BRENNAN! tongue.gif

QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Tuesday, July 15th, 2008, 11:25 PM) *
Skins could use a Favre though

Agreed. I think he'd be fine here. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do long-term, but short-term it would work.
Sportsmack
QUOTE (CBass1724 @ Wednesday, July 16th, 2008, 4:52 AM) *
<3 da 'boys

Agreed. I think he'd be fine here. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do long-term, but short-term it would work.


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, I'll never get sick of seeing Aikman in a daze on the sidelines...or any Cowboy quarterback for that matter.


...and unfortunately Snyder thinks short-term all too often, i.e...Deion Sanders, Bruce Smith, etc.
Jadaki
QUOTE (Sportsmack @ Wednesday, July 16th, 2008, 11:27 AM) *
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, I'll never get sick of seeing Aikman in a daze on the sidelines...or any Cowboy quarterback for that matter.


I remember Aikmen being in a daze...


















holding up 3 superbowl trophies is hard work.
CBass1724
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 1:13 AM) *
I remember Aikmen being in a daze...
holding up 3 superbowl trophies is hard work.

I still can't believe Barry Switzer gets the credit for one of those...

I will say Troy is one of the best announcers/color man on TV. He gives great insight and is definitely not a homer towards Dallas.

How about them tampering charges against the Vikes? I hope BF4 plays somewhere but I enjoy the drama for now. Only 17 days til the Skins-Colts HOF game!
Loismustdie
QUOTE (CBass1724 @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 5:08 AM) *
I still can't believe Barry Switzer gets the credit for one of those...

I will say Troy is one of the best announcers/color man on TV. He gives great insight and is definitely not a homer towards Dallas.

How about them tampering charges against the Vikes? I hope BF4 plays somewhere but I enjoy the drama for now. Only 17 days til the Skins-Colts HOF game!




How can it be tampering when they have basically said they want little to nothing to do with him?I know that technically it could be but I personally think the league will laugh at this. He's a player who was going to retire that decided he wants to play and you have treated him like shit. The only way the Packers save face here is to release him. People waffle on retirement all of the time, not every player is Tiki Barber.

I can say this- this whole thing in my mind is just insane. The story a month ago was how good Rodgers looked in the system, now it's "Well, Rodgers is the starter and the players can't adjust,etc.,etc." are you ****ing kidding me? Brett was an absolute stud last year, there is no reason to think he couldn't do it again once or twice-I guarantee Minnesota is salivating at the thought. It wouldn't surprise me if he is released but not in time to get any real work done with a new team. It would be a dick move by the Pack but nothing they have done so far tells me they give a shit about Brett or his career, they just want him to go away. How retarded is that? The answer is, release him- what? He is to good? Then swallow your damn pride and start him.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 7:33 AM) *
The only way the Packers save face here is to release him.



what on earth do the packers need to "save face" for? The Lombardi trophy isn't awarded for class. Why should they release Favre, to potentially get a division rival to start him, and get nothing in return for it? That doesn't make any sense at all. Sure, what they are doing, in dicking around favre, can't help them from a public relations stand point, but who the f cares about that, it's not like the packers are in any danger of not selling out, there's like a 20 year waiting list for season tickets.
Jadaki
QUOTE (CBass1724 @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 7:08 AM) *
I will say Troy is one of the best announcers/color man on TV. He gives great insight and is definitely not a homer towards Dallas.


I think he goes out of his way to not say anything nice about Dallas so he doesn't get labeled a homer.
CBass1724
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 11:33 AM) *
How can it be tampering when they have basically said they want little to nothing to do with him?

Apparently one of his old coaches is now a Vikings coach and has been in contact with him...maybe the OC? Not too sure which one it was. I think GB believes that the Vikes put the thought of unretiring into BF's head.

I think every team is guilty of tampering in some form when they go after a player who is still on a roster.
CBass1724
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 2:07 PM) *
I think he goes out of his way to not say anything nice about Dallas so he doesn't get labeled a homer.

He even said Clinton Portis is probably his favorite player in the NFL!

Now if he could just get rid of Joe Buck...
WKTSWAY
QUOTE (CBass1724 @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 1:10 PM) *
Apparently one of his old coaches is now a Vikings coach and has been in contact with him...maybe the OC? Not too sure which one it was. I think GB believes that the Vikes put the thought of unretiring into BF's head.

I think every team is guilty of tampering in some form when they go after a player who is still on a roster.


Yeah, the current Min O-Cord was Favre's QB coach.

If there are phone records that they talked to each other, that's easily explained away because they were "talking as friends."

But there were reports that when Favre said he wanted to come back that someone from the Vikings contacted Favre's agent...would that technically be tampering?
custom36
QUOTE (WKTSWAY @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 1:27 PM) *
But there were reports that when Favre said he wanted to come back that someone from the Vikings contacted Favre's agent...would that technically be tampering?


Yessir
Sportsmack
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Wednesday, July 16th, 2008, 10:13 PM) *
I remember Aikmen being in a daze...
holding up 3 superbowl trophies is hard work.


I've gone back over that video like 10 times and I still don't see him holding up any trophies icon_doh.gif


QUOTE (CBass1724 @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 11:12 AM) *
Now if he could just get rid of Joe Buck...


QFMFT
Loismustdie
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 10:38 AM) *
what on earth do the packers need to "save face" for? The Lombardi trophy isn't awarded for class. Why should they release Favre, to potentially get a division rival to start him, and get nothing in return for it? That doesn't make any sense at all. Sure, what they are doing, in dicking around favre, can't help them from a public relations stand point, but who the f cares about that, it's not like the packers are in any danger of not selling out, there's like a 20 year waiting list for season tickets.




Umm, they already have shot themselves in the foot from the trading standpoint. He is not even a starter in there minds!! What can they expect to receive in return? This whole circus is 100% about saving face, except it's ****ing stupid. He is still possibly a top 5, maybe top 8 QB in this league and they just want him to go away or ride the bench. It's insane.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 8:54 PM) *
Umm, they already have shot themselves in the foot from the trading standpoint. He is not even a starter in there minds!! What can they expect to receive in return? This whole circus is 100% about saving face, except it's ****ing stupid. He is still possibly a top 5, maybe top 8 QB in this league and they just want him to go away or ride the bench. It's insane.



Listen, I'm not arguing from a team stand point, what they are doing is stupid. pretty much everyone agrees favre, this season, would be better than aaron rodgers.


The long term question for the packers, is, can they win the superbowl this year with favre? If they think the answer is no, then they need to see if Aaron Rogers is the man to bring them their in 3-5 years. They need to either start grooming him, or find out as soon as possible that AR is NOT that guy, and get some other quarterback. Favre just isn't the long term solution, and starting him this year could retard that long term growth.


That said, they were damn close to going to the super bowl. If that game had been like 20 degrees warmer, I bet the packers go to the super bowl. There's no reason to think that they couldn't get back ( unless they know something I don't), other than the fact that the cowboys look like a juggernaut. I think it's crazy not to take another shot with favre, and it seems to me that they are taking this whole thing illogically personal.
Loismustdie
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 9:59 PM) *
Listen, I'm not arguing from a team stand point, what they are doing is stupid. pretty much everyone agrees favre, this season, would be better than aaron rodgers.
The long term question for the packers, is, can they win the superbowl this year with favre? If they think the answer is no, then they need to see if Aaron Rogers is the man to bring them their in 3-5 years. They need to either start grooming him, or find out as soon as possible that AR is NOT that guy, and get some other quarterback. Favre just isn't the long term solution, and starting him this year could retard that long term growth.
That said, they were damn close to going to the super bowl. If that game had been like 20 degrees warmer, I bet the packers go to the super bowl. There's no reason to think that they couldn't get back ( unless they know something I don't), other than the fact that the cowboys look like a juggernaut. I think it's crazy not to take another shot with favre, and it seems to me that they are taking this whole thing illogically personal.




100% agree, although I think any league right now teams pretend that the like to build for the future but if the chance to win now arrives, you take it. A Super Bowl ring buys you those mid level free agents that will take a little less to make your team better. I see your P.O.V., but being a Cardinals fan I can tell you the long term many times just ends up being a plan that never comes to fruition. If Rodgers blows out his knee next week, what then? Beg Brett?

I though the Packers were Super Bowl bound, and I still think Bretts awesome year was a big FU to Packers management. They have been trying to prod him out ever since they drafted Rodgers.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Thursday, July 17th, 2008, 9:11 PM) *
100% agree, although I think any league right now teams pretend that the like to build for the future but if the chance to win now arrives, you take it. A Super Bowl ring buys you those mid level free agents that will take a little less to make your team better. I see your P.O.V., but being a Cardinals fan I can tell you the long term many times just ends up being a plan that never comes to fruition. If Rodgers blows out his knee next week, what then? Beg Brett?

I though the Packers were Super Bowl bound, and I still think Bretts awesome year was a big FU to Packers management. They have been trying to prod him out ever since they drafted Rodgers.



Again, I'm not making a value judgement about the wisdom of the Packer's plan, I'm just saying "saving face" should have nothing to do with it. They should trade, or even bench Favre if that's the best thing for the team, or they should start him if that's the best thing.


I agree that "long term building plans" are foolish in football. But there's one position that is more important than all others.. If you have a great franchise QB, that is the cornerstone of a playoff team, and will be the cornerstone for 4-10 years. I can see the wisdom of finding out if AR is that QB or not. BUt I cant' see the wisdom of pushing Favre aside after he and the packers just had a year like they did.


That said.. 4 out of favre's last 5 seasons ranged from okay to lousy. There is at least some reason to think he would return to the pre-2007 form.
HollywoodAFD
QUOTE (Sportsmack @ Wednesday, July 16th, 2008, 11:27 AM) *
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, I'll never get sick of seeing Aikman in a daze on the sidelines...or any Cowboy quarterback for that matter.
...and unfortunately Snyder thinks short-term all too often, i.e...Deion Sanders, Bruce Smith, etc.

He's in a daze from the weight of all those SuperBowl rings on his hands.





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