potatoman
Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 6:05 PM
QUOTE (Money022 @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 5:41 PM)

Help me out with something here. I read on here about a month or two ago that implied odds are pointless preflop, or basically a myth. Any truth to this and if so, why.
I would say no, they're not pointless, but they are probably overvalued. If a good tight player raises your blind and you have 86s, you're reasoning for calling can't just be, my hand is worse than his, but if I hit I should be able to stack him.
You also have to factor in that he's a good player, which means even if you hit your hand, he might not stack off. You also have to factor in your inferior position. It's better to call with weak hands in position. It's also better to be raising these hands in position than calling out of position. You can't just rely on implied pot odds to make money on these. You also have to steal some blinds/pots with them too. It also helps you get paid off with your strong hands when you play a wider range. Just don't get carried away.
Obviously, if you're seen this opponent stack off with TPTK, even on dangerous looking boards, it's easier to value those implied odds.
I also think preflop implied odds have more value in a cash game than in 20-60 bb average stack tournament.