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dna4ever
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/06/30/doomsda...r.ap/index.html



MEYRIN, Switzerland (AP) -- The most powerful atom-smasher ever built could make some bizarre discoveries, such as invisible matter or extra dimensions in space, after it is switched on in August.

But some critics fear the Large Hadron Collider could exceed physicists' wildest conjectures: Will it spawn a black hole that could swallow Earth?

Or spit out particles that could turn the planet into a hot dead clump?

The collider basically consists of a ring of supercooled magnets 17 miles in circumference attached to huge barrel-shaped detectors. The ring, which straddles the French and Swiss border, is buried 330 feet underground.

The machine, which has been called the largest scientific experiment in history, isn't expected to begin test runs until August, and ramping up to full power could take months. But once it is working, it is expected to produce some startling findings.

The collider could find evidence of extra dimensions, a boon for superstring theory, which holds that quarks, the particles that make up atoms, are infinitesimal vibrating strings.

The safety of the collider, which will generate energies seven times higher than its most powerful rival, at Fermilab near Chicago, has been debated for years. The physicist Martin Rees has estimated the chance of an accelerator producing a global catastrophe at one in 50 million -- long odds, to be sure, but about the same as winning some lotteries.

Critics of the LHC filed a lawsuit in a Hawaiian court in March seeking to block its startup, alleging that there was "a significant risk that ... operation of the Collider may have unintended consequences which could ultimately result in the destruction of our planet."
IamStewie
Sooner....if I can help it !
loogie
There's nothing in Revelations about a black hole swallowing the Earth, so I think we're in the clear.
ricardob
Ask this guy, he's running the operation.

24fanatics


I think these guys already tried.
tobytobey
QUOTE (24fanatics @ Monday, June 30th, 2008, 4:21 PM) *


I think these guys already tried.


I love this movie. Can't help but to watch it EVERYTIME its on TV.
El Guapo



Mitch: You know, um, something strange happened to me this morning...
Chris Knight: Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you?
Mitch: No...
Chris Knight: Why am I the only one who has that dream?
TravisG
well, the micro black holes which can theoretically be created by this hadron collider would need as little as 52 weeks to "suck up" earth. seems to fit to the december 2012 mayan calendar end of year thing.

well it isn't proven neither disproven that those micro black holes can be created, however, once they're here, we only need stephen hawking to be wrong (hawking radiation) to make those black holes move into our earths core and accumulate mass until earth's gone.

gg.
runthemover
QUOTE (TravisG @ Monday, June 30th, 2008, 3:02 PM) *
well, the micro black holes which can theoretically be created by this hadron collider would need as little as 52 weeks to "suck up" earth. seems to fit to the december 2012 mayan calendar end of year thing.

well it isn't proven neither disproven that those micro black holes can be created, however, once they're here, we only need stephen hawking to be wrong (hawking radiation) to make those black holes move into our earths core and accumulate mass until earth's gone.

gg.

are you CERNtain?



BigDMcGee
QUOTE (TravisG @ Monday, June 30th, 2008, 2:02 PM) *
well, the micro black holes which can theoretically be created by this hadron collider would need as little as 52 weeks to "suck up" earth. seems to fit to the december 2012 mayan calendar end of year thing.

well it isn't proven neither disproven that those micro black holes can be created, however, once they're here, we only need stephen hawking to be wrong (hawking radiation) to make those black holes move into our earths core and accumulate mass until earth's gone.

gg.



I didn't know you were a closet pagan.
c0inn
thats is some crazy stuff to think about... anyone ever read The Elegant Universe? i like to read about this crap
timwakefield
QUOTE (ricardob @ Monday, June 30th, 2008, 4:19 PM) *


Animals will be bred and SLAUGHTERED.
chrozzo
OMG!!!! i better stock up on beer!
SuitedAces21
QUOTE (chrozzo @ Monday, June 30th, 2008, 10:29 PM) *
OMG!!!! i better stock up on beer!


like you needed an excuse.
LongLiveYorke
Never heard of it.
LongLiveYorke
And no, there's nothing to worry about because:

a) Micro black holes aren't allowed as a part of any accepted theory and are only a part of some new unproven theories.

cool.gif Black holes are always spitting out a bit of their mass through a mechanism called Hawking Radiation. Though this has little effects on the mass of giant black holes, it has a major effect on potential microscopic black holes and would make them disappear out of existence in less than a second.

c) The universe is a particle accelerator that is Billions of billions of times better than the LHC, and it is aimed at Earth. Earth is the target of what are called "Ultra High Energy cosmic rays" which are particles (mostly protons, which are the particles in the LHC) that are fired at Earth with much more energy than humans will ever be able to make. These hit the atmosphere every day all the time (about one per square kilometer per year, which isn't a lot, but if you add up the square kilometers of the earth, it's a large number). And these don't destroy the Earth, so the measly LHC certainly doesn't have a chance.

d) My cat's breath smells like cat food.
LongLiveYorke
QUOTE (c0inn @ Monday, June 30th, 2008, 10:20 PM) *
thats is some crazy stuff to think about... anyone ever read The Elegant Universe? i like to read about this crap



Yeah. Good book. We should start a thread where we can ask some really smart guy interesting questions about this sort of crap.
Sal Paradise
QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 8:47 AM) *
Yeah. Good book. We should start a thread where we can ask some really smart guy interesting questions about this sort of crap.

no thanks, I don't really have the time.
KramitDaToad
QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 1:47 PM) *
Yeah. Good book. We should start a thread where we can ask some really smart guy interesting questions about this sort of crap.


We have one

http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...showtopic=99749
Kaveros
If the world ends this august I will chop my balls off on youtube and ship OP my entire $14k bankroll.
HollywoodAFD
QUOTE (Kaveros @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 8:42 AM) *
If the world ends this august I will chop my balls off on youtube and ship OP my entire $14k bankroll.



14k bankroll ! LMAO



You try too hard.
Diablos
This thing ain't dangerous, there are huge benefits from the experiments we could discover zero point energy or more!

People are too afraid of change IMO, science is what makes us more than apes.
Kaveros
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 5:44 AM) *
You try too hard.


Yeah I try to hard. You are right. I am pretending to have a 14k bankroll. You caught me. I suck at poker and you are not gay.
qyayqi
QUOTE (Diablos @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 7:45 AM) *
This thing ain't dangerous, there are huge benefits from the experiments we could discover zero point energy or more!

People are too afraid of change IMO, science is what makes us more than apes.


and with this experiment gone horribly wrong, it will be what turns us back in to apes.
Sal Paradise
QUOTE (qyayqi @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 9:50 AM) *
and with this experiment gone horribly wrong, it will be what turns us back in to apes.

will that make rape more socially acceptable? if so, consider my fingers crossed!
HollywoodAFD
QUOTE (qyayqi @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 8:50 AM) *
and with this experiment gone horribly wrong, it will be what turns us back in to apes.

THAT was funny!

A bit scary...but funny all the same.

QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 8:53 AM) *
will that make rape more socially acceptable? if so, consider my fingers crossed!


You want to be raped by apes?
CBass1724
QUOTE (qyayqi @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 9:50 AM) *
and with this experiment gone horribly wrong, it will be what turns us back in to apes.

Nair FTW!
myenemy
QUOTE (HollywoodAFD @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 9:59 AM) *
THAT was funny!

A bit scary...but funny all the same.
You want to be raped by apes?

Please die.
Balloon guy
World may end in August?

Obama recieves official nomination of the democrat party in August.

Obama = anti-Christ?
SlapStick
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 8:46 AM) *
World may end in August?

Obama recieves official nomination of the democrat party in August.

Obama = anti-Christ?


Leave Muslims out of this, its the Swiss we should be worried about
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 8:46 AM) *
World may end in August?

Obama recieves official nomination of the democrat party in August.

Obama = anti-Christ?



good to know the anti-Christ has your vote, come October.
Gaffer
Yes it will end in august..............
Balloon guy
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 2:05 PM) *
good to know the anti-Christ has your vote, come November.

fyp

It's painful, Thank you for bringing it up.
Balloon guy
I'll tell you one thing.

If the world does end because of these test that LLY is working on.

I hope we get a few hours warning so I can go into the Religion section and point to all the times everyone tried to say science was sooo good and religion soo bad.

It will be soooo sweet saying: "Oh yea?"

I need to find a good picture to go along with it. An 'oh snap' would be perfect.
brvheart
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 4:28 PM) *
fyp

It's painful, Thank you for bringing it up.



What is this? You're voting for Obama? weird.
loogie
QUOTE (loogie @ Monday, June 30th, 2008, 1:14 PM) *
There's nothing in Revelations about a black hole swallowing the Earth, so I think we're in the clear.



QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 2:34 PM) *
I hope we get a few hours warning so I can go into the Religion section and point to all the times everyone tried to say science was sooo good and religion soo bad.

It will be soooo sweet saying: "Oh yea?"



But you apparently picked the wrong one! Which one has the world ending via black hole?
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (brvheart @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 1:36 PM) *
What is this? You're voting for Obama? weird.



He lost his vote in a golf wager. BG loves his country, but not as much as he loves gambling degeneracy.
SlapStick
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 1:38 PM) *
He lost his vote in a golf wager. BG loves his country, but not as much as he loves gambling degeneracy.



And the best part is he lost it to checky, who he must be at least 3 times the size of and has flamboyant tendencies
timwakefield
QUOTE (Kaveros @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 9:42 AM) *
If the world ends this august I will chop my balls off on youtube and ship OP my entire $14k bankroll.


Wow, I have to agree wholeheartedly with hollywood on this one - ^^^^ that's probably the most blatant, unnecessary brag post I've ever seen. GOB-esque imo.

'Yeah the guy with the 14k bankroll is gonna put a video on youtube, COME ON!!'

'Yeah, yeah I'll just go take a trip around the world with my 19k bankroll cuz the world is about to end, COME ON!!!'

'Oh, yeah, ok, the guy with the 24k bankroll is gonna chop off his balls?!!! COME ON!!!!!!!'
loogie
QUOTE (timwakefield @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 5:21 PM) *
Wow, I have to agree wholeheartedly with hollywood on this one - ^^^^ that's probably the most blatant, unnecessary brag post I've ever seen. GOB-esque imo.

'Yeah the guy with the 14k bankroll is gonna put a video on youtube, COME ON!!'

'Yeah, yeah I'll just go take a trip around the world with my 19k bankroll cuz the world is about to end, COME ON!!!'

'Oh, yeah, ok, the guy with the 24k bankroll is gonna chop off his balls?!!! COME ON!!!!!!!'


:new, pink schrute buck:
El Guapo
QUOTE (loogie @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 6:35 PM) *
:new, pink schrute buck:


I would emphatically agree with you but I would not want to wrinkle my $5,000 suit. COME ON!
runthemover
so is loogie giving a Z-val or something? I mean the pink ones are obvious fakes right?
fleung22
QUOTE (timwakefield @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 8:21 PM) *
Wow, I have to agree wholeheartedly with hollywood on this one - ^^^^ that's probably the most blatant, unnecessary brag post I've ever seen. GOB-esque imo.

'Yeah the guy with the 14k bankroll is gonna put a video on youtube, COME ON!!'

'Yeah, yeah I'll just go take a trip around the world with my 19k bankroll cuz the world is about to end, COME ON!!!'

'Oh, yeah, ok, the guy with the 24k bankroll is gonna chop off his balls?!!! COME ON!!!!!!!'


LOL

I love arrested development...so wish you could of done a cool GOB video
Sal Paradise
QUOTE (timwakefield @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 8:21 PM) *
Wow, I have to agree wholeheartedly with hollywood on this one - ^^^^ that's probably the most blatant, unnecessary brag post I've ever seen. GOB-esque imo.

'Yeah the guy with the 14k bankroll is gonna put a video on youtube, COME ON!!'

'Yeah, yeah I'll just go take a trip around the world with my 19k bankroll cuz the world is about to end, COME ON!!!'

'Oh, yeah, ok, the guy with the 24k bankroll is gonna chop off his balls?!!! COME ON!!!!!!!'

oh yes, this does deserve more praise. its like you became him.
LongLiveYorke
QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 5:34 PM) *
I'll tell you one thing.

If the world does end because of these test that LLY is working on.

I hope we get a few hours warning so I can go into the Religion section and point to all the times everyone tried to say science was sooo good and religion soo bad.

It will be soooo sweet saying: "Oh yea?"

I need to find a good picture to go along with it. An 'oh snap' would be perfect.


At least religion is honest about it planning on someday ending the world.
qyayqi
QUOTE (SlapStick @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 1:32 PM) *
Leave Muslims out of this, its the Swiss we should be worried about


i conquer. and so will the swiss. they give use these funky little knives to make us feel cool:











and them BLAMMO!! they pull this badboy out and make swiss cheese out of us:

BigDMcGee
That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, an aeroplane,
Lenny Bruce is not afraid
Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn - world
Serves its own needs, dont misserve your own needs. Feed
It off an aux speak, grunt, no, strength,turn, ladder
Start to clatter with fear fight down height. Wire
In a fire, representing seven games, in a government
For hire and a combat site. Left of west and coming in
A hurry with the furies breathing down your neck. Team
By team reporters baffled, trumped, tethered cropped
Look at that low playing! Fine, then. Uh oh,
Overflow, population, common food, but it'll do. Save
Yourself, serve yourself. World serves its own needs,
Listen to your heart bleed dummy with the rapture and
The revered and the right, right. You vitriolic,
Patriotic, slam, fight, bright light, feeling pretty
Psyched


timwakefield
QUOTE (runthemover @ Wednesday, July 2nd, 2008, 3:04 AM) *
so is loogie giving a Z-val or something? I mean the pink ones are obvious fakes right?


I dunno, you and Sal have me confused. I don't even know what z-val is (zero-validation?).
Sal Paradise
I don't know what the hell everybody else is talking about but I enjoyed it greatly.
dna4ever
looks like this got pushed back to September 10th/11th. How fitting if the world were to end on 9/11 ?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/09/08/lhc.collider/index.html

Fears have emerged that the collider could produce black holes that could suck up anything around them -- including the whole Earth. Such fears prompted legal actions in the U.S. and Europe to halt the operation of the Large Hadron Collider, alleging safety concerns regarding black holes and other phenomena that could theoretically emerge.

Although physicists acknowledge that the collider could, in theory, create small black holes, they say they do not pose any risk. A study released Friday by CERN scientists explains that any black hole created would be tiny, and would not have enough energy to stick around very long before dissolving.
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