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BigRob1107
I am a college student and i have been grinding at live cash games. I am a consistent winner and I play a tight Aggressive solid ABC style or if its a nit filled ultra tight game I am mad man and i raise almost any pot. But in an average game how can i use Daniels small ball strategy that he talks about for tourneys into NL cash. (I pretty much do I could just use some clearing up because in the book he talks about it for tourneys).
Veener Schnitz
play small pots?
I_fold08
havent read it yet but play lots of pots in position and be able to read whether your opponet is strong or weak, your cards dont matter that much at all
BigRob1107
QUOTE (Veener Schnitz @ Wednesday, June 25th, 2008, 10:23 AM) *
play small pots?

i generally do. A problem i face is when i get up against a habitual overbetter and i get no odds vs him on anything. For example a 2-2 nl $100 buy in im at 250 when this guy sits down. first hand i play with him i Raise 8 (my standard raise at this table) in LP with 78 of hearts he calls in BB. Flop 79J no flushes. he leads into me for 70 into a pot of $18. So i fold that hand and he does it every hand wins a couple then inevitably gets caught on one and is about even or under. I tighten up vs. this type of player but call with weaker hands than normal, 2nd pair top pair with a bad kicker. But how should i handle a player that takes the play away from me. Also in the theme of small ball what should my PF raise be in this type of game? 2.5 or 3x the blind gets reraised way too much and it seems 8(4x) lets me control the pot usuall if the play is somewhat normal.
BigRob1107
QUOTE (Veener Schnitz @ Wednesday, June 25th, 2008, 10:23 AM) *
play small pots?

I agree with my cards not mattering much. I Said ABC meaning i play aggressive in positon not i only play good cards. I consider that just standard play along with most .
fakepoo
QUOTE (BigRob1107 @ Wednesday, June 25th, 2008, 12:37 PM) *
i generally do. A problem i face is when i get up against a habitual overbetter and i get no odds vs him on anything. For example a 2-2 nl $100 buy in im at 250 when this guy sits down. first hand i play with him i Raise 8 (my standard raise at this table) in LP with 78 of hearts he calls in BB. Flop 79J no flushes. he leads into me for 70 into a pot of $18. So i fold that hand and he does it every hand wins a couple then inevitably gets caught on one and is about even or under. I tighten up vs. this type of player but call with weaker hands than normal, 2nd pair top pair with a bad kicker. But how should i handle a player that takes the play away from me. Also in the theme of small ball what should my PF raise be in this type of game? 2.5 or 3x the blind gets reraised way too much and it seems 8(4x) lets me control the pot usuall if the play is somewhat normal.

Players like this are easy to felt. Simply fold the marginal hands after the flop and when he does this and you have the nuts, it makes up for the times you folded.
BigRob1107
QUOTE (fakepoo @ Wednesday, June 25th, 2008, 11:13 AM) *
Players like this are easy to felt. Simply fold the marginal hands after the flop and when he does this and you have the nuts, it makes up for the times you folded.

True.
SCS
QUOTE (BigRob1107 @ Wednesday, June 25th, 2008, 1:37 PM) *
i generally do. A problem i face is when i get up against a habitual overbetter and i get no odds vs him on anything. For example a 2-2 nl $100 buy in im at 250 when this guy sits down. first hand i play with him i Raise 8 (my standard raise at this table) in LP with 78 of hearts he calls in BB. Flop 79J no flushes. he leads into me for 70 into a pot of $18. So i fold that hand and he does it every hand wins a couple then inevitably gets caught on one and is about even or under. I tighten up vs. this type of player but call with weaker hands than normal, 2nd pair top pair with a bad kicker. But how should i handle a player that takes the play away from me. Also in the theme of small ball what should my PF raise be in this type of game? 2.5 or 3x the blind gets reraised way too much and it seems 8(4x) lets me control the pot usuall if the play is somewhat normal.



2-2NL $100 buyin isn't the best game to try to play small ball in, due to the size of the stacks. Small ball relies a lot on implied odds, and you just don't have the implied odds in a short stack game.
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