LJB723
Sunday, June 22nd, 2008, 4:30 AM
Anyone for tennis?
With Wimbledon just around the corner I thought I could get people's predictions, musingsand general thought of the World's biggest tennis tournament.
Is Federer still the man and nailed on to win 6 on the bounce?
Is Nadal in his head and ready to step up and take the crown from him?
Is Djokovic good enough to unseat both of them and win major #2?
Will someone else upset everyone except the bookies (Murray? Aye, right!)
And for the ladies? Sharapova? One of the Williams? Jankovic? Ivanovic? Far more open than the mens and tough to pick a winner. But I'd be shocked if it wasn't one of these 5.
BudBundy
Sunday, June 22nd, 2008, 5:01 AM
Payback time for Federer. I think he will dominate this competition.
Nadal can be good at dirt court but he is still no match for Federer on grass court. He is catching up tho.
This year , for the first time in Wimbledon history , women are getting the same money prize as men. I expect some good matches there.
James D
Sunday, June 22nd, 2008, 9:19 AM
Good idea.. I was gonna make this thread later today funnily enough.
I'm actually going to Wimbledon on Tuesday 2nd July. Not sure who I'll get to watch, but it's Centre Court tickets... I'll take my camera and post some pics if I see anyone good. The roof isn't up until next year though is it? That's a shame!
Hope I don't get Murray, tbh. The great British hope, lol! I can't stand the guy.
I'd like to see Federer get back to winning ways, but yeah I agree it's hard to look outside of the 3 you mentioned. Nadal was pushed pretty hard by Djokovic at Queens, so I think both are genuine contenders. Who else has a moderately realsistic chance, in the men's? Roddick? I'm not sure he's capable of getting close to those guys at the moment.
For the ladies, Ivanovic just won the French.. what's she like on grass? I don't really know too much about ladies tennis, but she looks pretty sexy, so I'll root for her. Can't rule out one of the Williams' sisters on grass though.
mrpaddyx
Sunday, June 22nd, 2008, 12:30 PM
I don't think too much should be expected of Andy Murray, this is the only the 2nd time he has played at the Tournament. I don't think Federer will win the Men's title, every streak has to end at some point and this year is the year.
As for the Womans i'll stick with my usual policy of betting on a Williams sister. (In either of them is actually playing!)
LJB723
Sunday, June 22nd, 2008, 6:29 PM
QUOTE (James D @ Sunday, June 22nd, 2008, 6:19 PM)

Good idea.. I was gonna make this thread later today funnily enough.
I'm actually going to Wimbledon on Tuesday 2nd July. Not sure who I'll get to watch, but it's Centre Court tickets... I'll take my camera and post some pics if I see anyone good. The roof isn't up until next year though is it? That's a shame!
Hope I don't get Murray, tbh. The great British hope, lol! I can't stand the guy.
I'd like to see Federer get back to winning ways, but yeah I agree it's hard to look outside of the 3 you mentioned. Nadal was pushed pretty hard by Djokovic at Queens, so I think both are genuine contenders. Who else has a moderately realsistic chance, in the men's? Roddick? I'm not sure he's capable of getting close to those guys at the moment.
For the ladies, Ivanovic just won the French.. what's she like on grass? I don't really know too much about ladies tennis, but she looks pretty sexy, so I'll root for her. Can't rule out one of the Williams' sisters on grass though.
Quality that you've got tickets. My mum and gran have number 1 tickets for mens semi final day. I'm jealous. I think Federer will win. Although Djokovic pushed Nadal, I think over 5 sets Rafa is too good and will beat him in the semis (if the draw works out that way). Roddick is not good enough to beat any of the top 3 as they've all worked out his serve. And Murray won't get close.
Ladies. Ana, despite the French win doesn't have the power for grass. The big servers are the ones who win and she just isn't able to compete there yet. But if her returns hold up she could be a contender as the grass is slower and could suit her game. I hope she wins because she is the prettiest girl AINEC.
BudBundy
Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 12:42 AM
Wasn't Djokovic linked with a betting scandal a few years ago?
As I remember there were huge bets on Djokovic's opponent from 6 to 1 odds and Betfair reported this to ATP. Djokovic end up getting "injured" in the middle of the match and quitted.
SlapStick
Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 2:41 AM
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 12:42 AM)

Wasn't Djokovic linked with a betting scandal a few years ago?
As I remember there were huge bets on Djokovic's opponent from 6 to 1 odds and Betfair reported this to ATP. Djokovic end up getting "injured" in the middle of the match and quitted.
I think you're thinking of Davydenko
BudBundy
Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 6:23 AM
You are right.
From Wiki
The ATP is currently investigating Davydenko's match against Martin Vassallo Arguello in Sopot on 2nd of August 2007, after several large bets were placed at an online British gambling company, Betfair, in Arguello's favor after Davydenko had won the first set 6–2. Davydenko withdrew from the match during the third set with a foot injury.[3] Although Davydenko had suffered three first-round defeats in his last three tournaments, was injured in an earlier-round match, and showed signs of injury in the second set,[4] it did not make sense to Betfair that such a heavy betting volume would go in Arguello’s direction at that point of time in the match. Per its agreement with the ATP, Betfair notified the Tour.[5][6][7] It has since been revealed that nine people based in Russia had bet US$1.5m on Davydenko losing while two unknown people would gain US$6m from the loss.[8],[9] Due to the irregularities, however, the bet was voided.
Further controversy surrounded Davydenko at the St. Petersburg Open in October. During his 1–6, 7–5, 6–1 defeat by Marin Cilic he was given a code violation by umpire Jean-Philippe Dercq for not giving his best effort. He was later fined $2000 (£987) by the governing body of men's Tennis, the ATP, but the fine was rescinded upon appeal.[10] The following week, he lost 6–2, 6–2 to Marcos Baghdatis at the Paris Masters. This generated some controversy, as Davydenko was cautioned by the umpire to do his best during the match.
LJB723
Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 6:37 AM
A good win for Federer to kick things off. Glad he ditched the goofy suit and has gone for a white cardigan this year. Watching Ana now, a good way to deal with a hangover I think.
BudBundy
Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 6:50 AM
He pretty much has to choose white
CaneBrain
Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 7:02 AM
QUOTE (James D @ Sunday, June 22nd, 2008, 9:19 AM)

I'd like to see Federer get back to winning ways, but yeah I agree it's hard to look outside of the 3 you mentioned. Nadal was pushed pretty hard by Djokovic at Queens, so I think both are genuine contenders. Who else has a moderately realsistic chance, in the men's? Roddick? I'm not sure he's capable of getting close to those guys at the moment.
Roddick could definitely get hot with the serve and beat Djokovic or Nadal....but not Federer. Roddick played some of the best tennis of his life in LOSSES to Federer at Wimbledon.
I like Novak to upset Nadal if they meet in the semis. I think Nadal is great but he still can be had on grass by a big list of people.
LJB723
Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 7:46 AM
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 4:02 PM)

I like Novak to upset Nadal if they meet in the semis. I think Nadal is great but he still can be had on grass by a big list of people.
Djokovic is in Federer's half of the draw. So he can't meet Nadal unless it's the final.
James D
Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 7:54 AM
QUOTE (LJB723 @ Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 7:46 AM)

Djokovic is in Federer's half of the draw. So he can't meet Nadal unless it's the final.
Check out his impersonations of other tennis players:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkrwBovi964Pretty funny!
CaneBrain
Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 9:01 AM
QUOTE (LJB723 @ Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 7:46 AM)

Djokovic is in Federer's half of the draw. So he can't meet Nadal unless it's the final.
good to know....so much for novak making the finals....
CaneBrain
Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 9:01 AM
QUOTE (James D @ Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 7:54 AM)

Check out his impersonations of other tennis players:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkrwBovi964Pretty funny!
his send up of Maria Sharapova is incredible. this guy could be a huge star if he can ever get over the Federer/Nadal hump. He has more personality than both of them combined.
SlapStick
Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 11:34 AM
I think Djokovic has a huge hump to overcome. He was on his way to cracking the top 2 but in the French open and Queens Final, Nadal just looked like he had him mentally outmatched. On the grass it was Djokovics chance to get revenge but Nadal controlled him.
LJB723
Wednesday, June 25th, 2008, 6:21 AM
First major shock! (Not including Davydenko and Nalbandian) Goodbye Djokovic. I'm quite happy about this actually, nothing against Djokovic but I was a huge fan of Safin and have missed him making an impact on major tournaments.
Ivanovic on the ropes too, should have been gone if not for a freak net chord.
CaneBrain
Wednesday, June 25th, 2008, 7:28 AM
QUOTE (LJB723 @ Wednesday, June 25th, 2008, 6:21 AM)

First major shock! (Not including Davydenko and Nalbandian) Goodbye Djokovic. I'm quite happy about this actually, nothing against Djokovic but I was a huge fan of Safin and have missed him making an impact on major tournaments.
Ivanovic on the ropes too, should have been gone if not for a freak net chord.
wow novak has really taken a step back this last few months. That stuff happens though.
LJB723
Wednesday, June 25th, 2008, 7:31 AM
QUOTE (CaneBrain @ Wednesday, June 25th, 2008, 4:28 PM)

wow novak has really taken a step back this last few months. That stuff happens though.
Think you're being a bit harsh there. He did make the semi's of the French only to lose to Nadal. And he made the final of Queens a week later. I wouldn't say he was declining in any way. Plus, Safin is a GS winner himself. It's not as if he crashed out to some Brit no-hoper.
CaneBrain
Thursday, June 26th, 2008, 11:35 AM
you are right I was being a bit harsh on Djokovic. I just have high hopes for him....he has a ton of personality so I think he could do a lot for tennis which is clearly a struggling sport.
Someone who I have not been harsh enough on is Roddick. What a dismal loss that was today. Losing on grass to an unknown? Gross. It is time to start asking if he is done as a legit threat on grass and hard courts.
mrpaddyx
Thursday, June 26th, 2008, 11:40 AM
Andy Murray won again, the Scottish Pain Train* is on the march!
* Nickname pending
James D
Thursday, June 26th, 2008, 12:17 PM
Sharapova out today... quite a few upsets this year so far.
I think it's good for tennis in general though, when it's not a guarantee that the top seeds will always get to the later stages. Especially at Wimbledon too... I think it's because the courts play a lot slower (or faster? I never know which way they mean when they say that, lol) than they used to. Thankfully, Ivanovic managed to just survive yesterday.
renaedawn
Thursday, June 26th, 2008, 8:48 PM
QUOTE (LJB723 @ Wednesday, June 25th, 2008, 10:31 AM)

Think you're being a bit harsh there. He did make the semi's of the French only to lose to Nadal. And he made the final of Queens a week later. I wouldn't say he was declining in any way. Plus, Safin is a GS winner himself. It's not as if he crashed out to some Brit no-hoper.
Actually, Safin has beaten the 2 best men's tennis players to
ever play the game in grand slam finals. There is arguably nobody more talented on the tour than Marat.
It's just that stupid head thing.
LJB723
Friday, June 27th, 2008, 4:00 AM
QUOTE (renaedawn @ Friday, June 27th, 2008, 5:48 AM)

Actually, Safin has beaten the 2 best men's tennis players to ever play the game in grand slam finals. There is arguably nobody more talented on the tour than Marat.
It's just that stupid head thing.
*Annoying nitpick* He beat Federer in the semi's of the AO in 2005. He beat Lleyton Hewitt in the final. But I agree he is a great player when he keeps his head together!
QUOTE (James D @ Friday, June 27th, 2008, 9:17 PM)

Sharapova out today... quite a few upsets this year so far.
I think it's good for tennis in general though, when it's not a guarantee that the top seeds will always get to the later stages. Especially at Wimbledon too... I think it's because the courts play a lot slower (or faster? I never know which way they mean when they say that, lol) than they used to. Thankfully, Ivanovic managed to just survive yesterday.
The grass is playing slower than it used to. I think because it's cut differently and left shorter so it acts more as an even surface and you get a higher bounce now. Which explains the death of serve/volley. The players can afford to hang back and get involved in baseline rallies. Hence Rafa's continued awesomeness from clay to grass.
I suppose it's true testament to Borg's greatness that he could win both RG and Wimbledon when there was a
huge difference between the surfaces.
And Wimbledon always seems to have the most upsets of all the majors. Sure every slam can name a shock winner or deep run from a relatively unknown player but Wimbledon always seems to have one, whether it's on the mens or ladies.
renaedawn
Friday, June 27th, 2008, 5:11 PM
You're right. Semi-final. My bad.
Still the most talented tennis player I've ever seen. Arguably could have been a dominant force had he not let his temper get in his own way.
SlapStick
Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 7:01 AM
If anyone seen it, that point by Murray to break Haas in the 3rd game was amazing. He looks in a winning mood and hes getting lucky too/
Giggidy
Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 7:12 AM
Watching it now - Even tho he's British I find it hard to get behind him becuase of his character (or rather lack of likeability)
SlapStick
Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 7:18 AM
QUOTE (Giggidy @ Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 7:12 AM)

Watching it now - Even tho he's British I find it hard to get behind him becuase of his character (or rather lack of likeability)
I'm happier with a Scotsman, we have no Irish players and supporting Henman or any English person never feels right. I supported him anyway but I'm glad to have a Scotsman
Giggidy
Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 7:27 AM
QUOTE (SlapStick @ Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 4:18 PM)

I'm happier with a Scotsman, we have no Irish players and supporting Henman or any English person never feels right. I supported him anyway but I'm glad to have a Scotsman
Doesn't matter to me if he's scottish, english, welsh or irish, but then i'm not racist
Gaffer
Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 7:36 AM
i dont think i can remember a wesl tennis player, we have boxers rugby players etc etc no tennis though
SlapStick
Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 7:42 AM
QUOTE (Giggidy @ Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 7:27 AM)

Doesn't matter to me if he's scottish, english, welsh or irish, but then i'm not racist
so you'll support them if hes british or Irish fair enough.
I'm not racist, I just obviously prefer to see the English lose. I have nothing agaisnt English people individually, just as a whole.
LJB723
Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 1:07 PM
I'm Scottish and I don't particularly like Murray. But I will acknoweldge when he plays well and deserves to win. Like today. Don't think he'll beat Gasquet but it should be a good match.
The problem with Henman wasn't so much the guy but the way the media built him up year after year after year. Only to stomp him into the ground when he lost. It was annoying at the least. "Henmania" my arse.
Gaffer
Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 2:14 PM
QUOTE (LJB723 @ Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 1:07 PM)

I'm Scottish and I don't particularly like Murray. But I will acknoweldge when he plays well and deserves to win. Like today. Don't think he'll beat Gasquet but it should be a good match.
The problem with Henman wasn't so much the guy but the way the media built him up year after year after year. Only to stomp him into the ground when he lost. It was annoying at the least. "Henmania" my arse.
corrrect henman suffered because of the press same as most english sports stars
Giggidy
Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 2:18 PM
QUOTE (SlapStick @ Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 4:01 PM)

If anyone seen it, that point by Murray to break Haas in the 3rd game was amazing. He looks in a winning mood and hes getting lucky too/
Just saw that passing shot replayed on the news....what a peach!
mrpaddyx
Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 3:42 PM
As a Scotsman i'm happy to see Murray doing well. His isn't the most jolly player but thats not his job. I couldn't care less if he moaned all the way to the final. Indeed its good to have a Scottish player/team doing well for a change. Our football team can't qualify for major tournaments anymore, since Monty became crap we have no decent golfers and Alex Arthur aside we have no decent boxers (and just wait till he meets someone decent).
Murray for Wimbledon? Stranger things have happened.............
SlapStick
Monday, June 30th, 2008, 6:51 AM
Holy shit. Ancic vs Verdasco, 5th set, 20th game. 10:9 Ancic serving to stay in the game
DanielS
Monday, June 30th, 2008, 7:03 AM
I'm a fan of Federer although I would be happier if he had won the French Open.
SlapStick
Monday, June 30th, 2008, 7:18 AM
QUOTE (DanielS @ Monday, June 30th, 2008, 7:03 AM)

I'm a fan of Federer although I would be happier if he had won the French Open.
although? lol, you mean obviously?
James D
Monday, June 30th, 2008, 8:13 AM
Federer to play the last man to beat him at Wimbledon... Ancic.
Not suggesting he's gonna lose this time, but just throwing it out there.
SlapStick
Monday, June 30th, 2008, 10:04 AM
If Gasquets first serve does not falter, Murray can't win. Its unstoppable at the moment
Giggidy
Monday, June 30th, 2008, 10:43 AM
QUOTE (SlapStick @ Monday, June 30th, 2008, 7:04 PM)

If Gasquets first serve does not falter, Murray can't win. Its unstoppable at the moment
I think either way he's screwed tbh, less that 50% of his first serves are in and his 2nd serve is a sitter. Would love to be proved wrong, mind
SlapStick
Monday, June 30th, 2008, 11:46 AM
What a turn around, turning into a cracker.
Where did Gasquet go before the 5th set? I only have hebrew commentators so I only understand the basic stuff
Giggidy
Monday, June 30th, 2008, 12:44 PM
What a comeback!
James D
Monday, June 30th, 2008, 1:26 PM
Odds on tomorrow's Sun headline being something along the lines of... 'Murray blows a Gasquet'?
Gutted he won. I hate his face.
Anyway, I'm going tomorrow, and check out the line up I get:
Dementieva v Petrova
A Radwanska v S Williams
and men's doubles.. Bryan/Bryan v Granollers/Ventura
WTF???! Oh, yeah I'm really looking forward to that. So unfair, imo.
SlapStick
Monday, June 30th, 2008, 1:33 PM
QUOTE (James D @ Monday, June 30th, 2008, 1:26 PM)

Odds on tomorrow's Sun headline being something along the lines of... 'Murray blows a Gasquet'?
Gutted he won. I hate his face.
Anyway, I'm going tomorrow, and check out the line up I get:
Dementieva v Petrova
A Radwanska v S Williams
and men's doubles.. Bryan/Bryan v Granollers/Ventura
WTF???! Oh, yeah I'm really looking forward to that. So unfair, imo.
lol horrible, although Im in love with dementieva.
Try sell it off or swap?
fleung22
Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 6:10 PM
QUOTE (mrpaddyx @ Saturday, June 28th, 2008, 7:42 PM)

As a Scotsman i'm happy to see Murray doing well. His isn't the most jolly player but thats not his job. I couldn't care less if he moaned all the way to the final. Indeed its good to have a Scottish player/team doing well for a change. Our football team can't qualify for major tournaments anymore, since Monty became crap we have no decent golfers and Alex Arthur aside we have no decent boxers (and just wait till he meets someone decent).
Murray for Wimbledon? Stranger things have happened.............
No freakin way
Assuming Nadal isn't injured I'll be surprised if Murray wins another set this tournament
fleung22
Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 6:11 PM
What no love for Jie? I'm impressed and it's getting lots of press in the Far East.
Venus and Serena really sound like children with their moaning about which courts they play.
CaneBrain
Wednesday, July 2nd, 2008, 6:31 AM
QUOTE (fleung22 @ Tuesday, July 1st, 2008, 6:11 PM)

What no love for Jie? I'm impressed and it's getting lots of press in the Far East.
Venus and Serena really sound like children with their moaning about which courts they play.
There was a column in a local paper down here in FLA that basically accused Wimbledon of showing its true colors and revealing how sexist the tournament organizers are.
It's not enough they get equal pay for playing best of 3 instead of best of 5? Now they have a new axe to grind? Always fun to watch feminsts straddle the line between championing a worthy cause and being really really annoying.
LJB723
Wednesday, July 2nd, 2008, 10:42 AM
Fucking Hell. Nadal is wiping the floor with Murray. I bet Nadal has a dick like an anaconda, swinging in the wind.
SlapStick
Wednesday, July 2nd, 2008, 10:44 AM
Poor Murray, he's only 21, he has so many wimbledon build ups and let downs to go through. Hopefully he can snatch something
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