from a tourney, but pretty early on and me and villain had decent stacks, im more worried about the play of the hand rather than in its relation to the tournament, but if zach wants to move it that's fine too.

80/160, ante 16, bi 24
<3rd>
1st brings in w K
2nd folds a Q
I call w/ (87) 2
4th folds A
5th folds T
6th folds 8
7th calls xx Q
8th folds a 5

<4th>
RISE 87 2T bets
7th xx QK calls
1st xx K2 folds

<5th>
RISE 87 2TJ bets
7th xx QK9 calls

<6th>
RISE 87 2TJ9 bets
7th xx QK92 calls

<7th>
RISE 87 2TJ9 2 checks
7th xx QK92 x bets
RISE calls

Fold third street?

Maybe not...but then, I'm probably raising third street. Then everyone probably folds and I take the pot and move on.

As played, looks fine. Probably want to bet seventh street. Wow villain's a moron....

yeah 3rd is a rough start, but i was by far the best player on the table and wanted to exploit my post 3rd edge

looks like he's goin after some kinda 9 low by 6th, and i only have a 10, why wouldn't c/c be better than bet?

Please tell me this is a horse tourney and villain thinks this is Stud.

Seriously though, might as well raise third. If it's good enough to call with, it's good enough to raise with.



What's really weird is you expect him to have likely paired the 2 on 6th. I'm usually a huge advocate of check-calling, even in many marginal NLHE situations where I feel my mixed-game background helps me generate profit when no one has much of a hand.

In this situation, I actually like betting out because: 1. ) He could be drawing so dead that he's not even going to attempt to fire, 2. ) We limped on 3rd, which hides the fact that we actually have a rough 9, 3. ) No matter how bad he plays, there isn't a card on planet earth that feasibly allows him to raise. I think he can "catch" a lot of card to make a worse-yet-callable hand because of pot-size.

crap, I really like checking, too, upon further review. We have about as rough a ten as one could have, and he's on average got 14 live outs out of 38 unseen cards (by either of you), so he's actually 37% to make a better hand on the river if he had any kind of 9 low draw. This makes check-calling more preferrable, since you are not likely to get him to call if he doesn't make a 9 or T low, and any 9 or T low he makes.. beats you.


His call on 4th is just so inane I can't even put it into words. There's about a .0001% chance that ten paired you (esp. with a te dead on third) and even if it did, he needs 3 cards in a row to make *anything* better than a Queen-low. To top it off: he's never getting you to fold when he's got a KQ board.

This hand seriously makes me angry lol.

3rd street's definately the worst part of my razz game (thought i dont claim to be that great at it anyway, just more competent than most everyone else at the tables which gives me a big edge)

is this really a raise if im playing it? im drawing pretty rough...which i guess is an argument to just fold it.
but im not terribly far behind most other 3 card lows and id rather not let a 9 or T in cheaply and outdraw me, so ok I can see raising 3rd being good, if im going to play it at all.

i think he had A7 or A8 to start and made a 9-8 by the river.

and no, this was a straight razz tourney.

3rd is a must raise. limping is ok if your door is the 8, though. other streets are pretty standard. sometimes you can fold 7th against certain opponents, though.