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Bessel
Bet355 No-limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed)

CO ($20.18)
Hero ($22.18)
SB ($8.13)
BB ($47.42)
UTG ($7.42)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4c.gif, 4h.gif.
UTG calls $0.2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.80, SB calls $0.8, BB calls $0.8, UTG calls $0.8.

Flop: ($3.2) 4d.gif, 2d.gif, 2c.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($3.2) qc.gif (4 players)
SB bets $2, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2, Hero?

I had recently sat down and everyone was unknown. I have occasionally bet out with flopped boats, hoping everyone thinks "he can't have a big hand if he's playing it that fast". But because the flop was all baby cards I didn't think it really was a good idea here (edit: this doesn't really make sense on reflection). I don't always raise this preflop either.
simo_8ball
Ya, I bet the flop most of the time here. Noone is folding a pair.

On the turn, you want to try and build a pot so you can potentially stack the BB. I'd raise it to about $8, and then you can shove any river.
simo_8ball
FWIW I honestly wouldn't hate raising tiny either, to like $5.
BertTheKid
i would raise a little small, to 5$
say you get with the 5$ raise, still 2 people in, you make 10$
with the raise to 8$ you're probably get only one call, so that's only 8$
i know that's extremely obvious, but i still see people shove from there, and then no one calls...
NonZeroPossibility
I put UTG on 22. Fold.
Bessel
QUOTE (NonZeroPossibility @ Saturday, June 14th, 2008, 8:58 AM) *
I put UTG on 22. Fold.


LOLZ WP. I give so much action to short stackers (a bit shallower than the SB though), and I don't really mind doubling them up, as (hopefully) they'll stop just shvoing w/ Ax icon_biggrin.gif

So I did raise to $6, SB folded, BB called, UTG called.

River ($21.2) 2h.gif (3 players)
BB checked, UTG bets $0.62 and is all in, Hero raises to $10, BB folds.

UTG showed kc.gif, 8c.gif (lol).

Pretty standard I guess,
simo_8ball
QUOTE (Bessel @ Sunday, June 15th, 2008, 9:10 PM) *
LOLZ WP. I give so much action to short stackers (a bit shallower than the SB though), and I don't really mind doubling them up, as (hopefully) they'll KEEP ON just shvoing w/ Ax icon_biggrin.gif

FYP

You want them to retardedly shove large amounts with Ax.
Bessel
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Sunday, June 15th, 2008, 12:20 PM) *
FYP

You want them to retardedly shove large amounts with Ax.


Yeah, true. But one has to play tight (which is pretty boring) if there is one idiot w/ 30BB. They really ruin the game and I tend to leave if there is more than one of them. I wish poker rooms would make the minimum buy in like 50bb
simo_8ball
QUOTE (Bessel @ Sunday, June 15th, 2008, 9:26 PM) *
Yeah, true. But one has to play tight (which is pretty boring) if there is one idiot w/ 30BB. They really ruin the game and I tend to leave if there is more than one of them. I wish poker rooms would make the minimum buy in like 50bb

No you don't. If they are shoving A7 for 30bbs then you should be happy getting allin preflop with hands like AJ and 66.
Sheiky
QUOTE (Bessel @ Sunday, June 15th, 2008, 9:26 PM) *
Yeah, true. But one has to play tight (which is pretty boring) if there is one idiot w/ 30BB. They really ruin the game and I tend to leave if there is more than one of them. I wish poker rooms would make the minimum buy in like 50bb


Stars and Full Tilt do i think
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (Bessel @ Saturday, June 14th, 2008, 5:51 AM) *
Bet355 No-limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed)

CO ($20.18)
Hero ($22.18)
SB ($8.13)
BB ($47.42)
UTG ($7.42)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4c.gif, 4h.gif.
UTG calls $0.2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.80, SB calls $0.8, BB calls $0.8, UTG calls $0.8.

Flop: ($3.2) 4d.gif, 2d.gif, 2c.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($3.2) qc.gif (4 players)
SB bets $2, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2, Hero?

I had recently sat down and everyone was unknown. I have occasionally bet out with flopped boats, hoping everyone thinks "he can't have a big hand if he's playing it that fast". But because the flop was all baby cards I didn't think it really was a good idea here (edit: this doesn't really make sense on reflection). I don't always raise this preflop either.


Make it like $5.5.
Tasty enough to keep the ducks and flush draws on the line.
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