Ultimate Bet Pot-Limit Omaha High, $.50 BB (6 handed) Ultimate Bet Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

SB ($52.10)
Hero ($127.10)
UTG ($44.60)
MP ($20)
CO ($80.85)
Button ($80.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2 , A , A , T .
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.75, MP calls $2.25, CO calls $2.25, Button calls $2.25.

Flop: ($11.25) 9 , 3 , T (4 players)
Hero bets $11.25, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: $11.25

At first I was thinking of posting this to debate whether or not to be cautious on the flop since I have 3 callers. However, looking back on it, I have the nut flush draw too. Then again, I'm in the worst position. Is the pot bet OK? Maybe less?

What do I do if raised?

Potting flop is the standadest play. And you are happily getting it in on flop if someone raises you.

In these hands i hope someone raises me on flop because getting flat called and trying to play turn OOP will be a big pain in the ass.

I agree with that as the standard play.

If you're feeling frisky, you can look for a check/raise in a 4 way pot though. Good chance someone is on the straight draw.

Thanks guys. About 6000 hands into this 6 handed PLO thing. Around +7PTbb/100. A little fine tuning to go yet (think I missed a bunch of value yesterday by overbetting rivers) but it's coming around. Quite a change after the (relative) monotony of full ring LHE.

Feel free to post these hands - post as many hands as possible while you're still learning. I posted TONS of them when I was starting out.

The time to get money in plo pots is by the turn. Not a lot of people at the lower limits are paying off big bets on the river with much less than the nuts - they'll call incorrectly on earlier streets for full bets with weak draws though. Punish them then. The only downside is when it feels like they hit every draw that they chase...My biggest downswing was 22 buyins - ask bud/simo/iggy...they can be ugly. I think Iggy posted a graph in the main strat forum yesterday showing a 60 buyin downswing. Lesson - be properly rolled...

Though we're a small forum, there's a ton of help here if you need it. Don't hesitate to ask. GL!

I agree %100 with bdc.

However you can't clasify every losing period as a "downswing". When i think i am on a downswing , most of the time i see i am doing many things wrong when i check the hand histories after a session. I am either overplaying my hands , calling too light or not betting/calling/folding/raising when i should.

I know PLO is very swingy , i have over 200k hands at PLO but i am still very skeptical when someone says "i had a huge downswing , PLO sucks" . Without even looking at the hand histories i am pretty convinced that half of his lost buyins was a result of bad play.

It is also very easy to fool yourself with the hand histories too. As in you repot and get it in on flop with JJxx , an overpair and a j high flush , and you happen to be a %52 favourite against a random hand. A player in denial will say "It is standard , i got my money in good and got unlucky" and he will move on to next hand. He doesn't want to notice that his push is a losing play in the long run although it happened to be good in that hand.

Bad run and bad play always goes hand in hand. The way you play while running bad determines if you are a winning or losing player. Who cares how you play while running good. Your draws hit , your hands hold up against ridiculous amounts of outs. At very worst , you can manage to lose value by playing bad , but you still make money.

It is the bad run that seperates a good player from a meh , decent player.

Yep I'll keep posting - I've said before in the LHE forums that sometimes it's hard to know what your problems are, because we tend not to know what our own problems are. So if you have any tips from your first 25K hands, situations that you found tricky for example, that I could watch for and post, I'm open to suggestions.

As for the value betting the other night, it was purely a case of having the nutz on scary boards and betting full pot on the river (while on 4 tables) instead of taking a second to think and maybe fire 1/3 or 1/2 to have some chance of getting called. On the other hand, some players were calling off big with weak 2 pair hands, so win some, lose some.

For my first 25k hand problems, read the first 15 or 20 pages of the low content thread.

Ya, during my 40 buyin downswing I ran over 25 buyins below allin equity, but I think at least 10 of the buyins were bad play.



Raise preflop?