AmScray
Saturday, May 17th, 2008, 2:36 PM
So, excluding the obvious picks that everyone is going to choose, who else do you like?
On looks alone, Chad Batista gets as much action as he wants in real life... He seems to be made for events like the WSOP. Kinda burning up a pick on him since he may not play too many events other than NLHE, but I picked him anyway.
Canuckickstan
Saturday, May 17th, 2008, 5:28 PM
I take Bill Edler every year. He plays a lot of events and goes deep often.
CobaltBlue
Saturday, May 17th, 2008, 10:22 PM
Maybe it's a common pick after last year, but Michael Binger's hard to avoid picking.
albasuna
Saturday, May 17th, 2008, 11:34 PM
Robert Mizrachi?
freak2304
Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 12:05 AM
This year I went w/ guys who I thought were due for a breakout WSOP, even though they're probably somewhat standards. Hence, E-Dog high on the list (I have him winning a bracelet and barely missing a 2nd) and Todd Brunson (just a weird hunch).
gfdsa146
Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 7:22 AM
You'd be a fool not to pick Paul Magriel
CrAcKeDaCeS
Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 10:12 AM
Being that the list isn't super heavy on Hold Em events, I tried to go with the best all around players. I guess my non-standard pick was JC Tran.
My list:
Seidel
Negreanu
Tran
Forrest
Hansen
Lindgren
Cunningham
Ivey
Benyamine
Greenstein
SlapStick
Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 10:31 AM
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Shark527
Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 12:30 PM
I also went with Michael Binger.
I was very close to picking Gavin Smith as he is also due sometime soon.
Humberto Brenes or Chad Brown would'nt be bad picks as they have both been really consistent the last few years.
Gavin Griffin?
TrueAce13
Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 4:52 PM
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DanielNegreanu
Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 5:00 PM
IMO, you should go with non hold'em guys since the pool is geared towards the high buy in events. Also guys who will play a lot of those events. My short list as of now in no particular order:
Daniel Negreanu
David Chiu
Ted Forrest
John Hennigan
Phil Ivey
Barry Gnreenstien
Mike Matusow (Crazy I know :-)
Allen Cunnningham
John Juanda
Scotty Nguyen
Notice a trend with all these guys. These are all guys who've been around before the internet boom and have grinded in cash mixed games for years. All can play stud games, all can play flop games well. I'm predicting smaller fields in the bigger buy in events which suits this group well.
CrAcKeDaCeS
Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 6:46 PM
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 5:00 PM)

IMO, you should go with non hold'em guys since the pool is geared towards the high buy in events. Also guys who will play a lot of those events. My short list as of now in no particular order:
Daniel Negreanu
David Chiu
Ted Forrest
John Hennigan
Phil Ivey
Barry Gnreenstien
Mike Matusow (Crazy I know :-)
Allen Cunnningham
John Juanda
Scotty Nguyen
Notice a trend with all these guys. These are all guys who've been around before the internet boom and have grinded in cash mixed games for years. All can play stud games, all can play flop games well. I'm predicting smaller fields in the bigger buy in events which suits this group well.
I've picked Hennigan in every single pool before this one but neglected to pick him this year. Bob, watch for a PM to alter my picks, if possible....Johnny World, ftw!
gArdsangeren
Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 7:34 PM
I based my list on frequent top finished, atleast in the televised events i've seen, and then its clearly going to be the big horse event that settles the score.
My list looks like this:
Daniel Negreanu
Mike Matusow
Dave Ulliot
Andy Bloch
Doyle Brunson
Ted Forrest
John Juanda
Minh Ly
Humberto Brenes
Gavin Griffin
Doyle, Mike and Andy is solely because of the horse event.
Then i went with Juanda because he plays lots of diff events.
Ulliot usually makes it deep in the omaha events
Humberto is clearly the NL hold'em money man, along with gavin griffin (who have been playing a lot of horse at PS)
Daniel, you gotta destroy the stud games! Well Ted too, but as far as i know you still owe little matt a finale table trip, so you have first prio

Minh Ly is my out of the pack pick, i think. He just seems to be everywhere without ever being noticed.
CaptainQuint88
Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 8:21 PM
I always liked watching Juanda play just because his style is more pre-flop and different from a lot of the pro's, but I haven't seen much from him lately... has he been playing cash games or just hasn't had a big score in a while?
freak2304
Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 9:55 PM
FWIW, my list:
Allen Cunningham
Erick Lindgren
Daniel Negreanu
David Pham
Chris Ferguson
Phil Ivey
Phil Hellmuth
Tom Dwan
Barry Greenstein
Todd Brunson
I dunno....the Hellmuth and Pham picks kinda worry me now that I realize there's not as many hold 'em events that are being scored. -shrug-
XXEddie
Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 10:55 PM
I think Chip Reese is a good sleeper pick.
too soon?
DinkDonk
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 12:27 AM
QUOTE (XXEddie @ Monday, May 19th, 2008, 2:55 AM)

I think Chip Reese is a good sleeper pick.
too soon?
Probably.
DinkDonk
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 12:27 AM
Matt Hawrilenko and Justin Bonomo FTW.
SlapStick
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 3:18 AM
Dammit stop posting your picks until the deadline is over. You are going to stop everyone wasting their picks on NL "specialists"
Mike Matusow is on my list, I went on the amount of mixed games and tournies they played, Daniel had to go and give tips though.
a few wierd picks on my list and one crazy one, imo anyway
fighter
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 6:54 AM
DN
David Chiu
Ted Forrest
John Hennigan
Phil Ivey
Barry Greenstien
Mike Matusow
Allen Cunningham
John Juanda
Scotty Nguyen
I guessing these guys would be the standard picks and anyone else would be considered a non standard pick.
HighwayStar
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 7:27 AM
Yang
Gold
Hachem
Raymer
Moneymaker
Varknoyi
Mortenson
Ferguson
Furlong
Nguyen
SlapStick
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 7:57 AM
QUOTE (fighter @ Monday, May 19th, 2008, 9:54 AM)

DN
David Chiu
Ted Forrest
John Hennigan
Phil Ivey
Barry Greenstien
Mike Matusow
Allen Cunningham
John Juanda
Scotty Nguyen
I guessing these guys would be the standard picks and anyone else would be considered a non standard pick.
Is that your team or just a reference of standard picks? as you could have just quoted DN, thats his exact short list
LJB723
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 12:01 PM
Allen Cunningham
Chris Ferguson
Roland De Wolfe
Marcel Luske
David Benyamine
Daniel Negreanu
Andy Bloch
Scotty Nguyen
Kenny Tran
David Pham
Controversial?
imphic
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 12:45 PM
A good strategy is to pick players like the ones DN has put forth, but not the same ones since most people participating will have
the same players. That said, I'm sure I'll include at least three or four from his list, but the others will probably be less big names, but still known to play mixed games at the WSOP.
loogie
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 5:33 PM
QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Sunday, May 18th, 2008, 6:00 PM)

IMO, you should go with non hold'em guys since the pool is geared towards the high buy in events. Also guys who will play a lot of those events. My short list as of now in no particular order:
Daniel Negreanu
David Chiu
Ted Forrest
John Hennigan
Phil Ivey
Barry Gnreenstien
Mike Matusow (Crazy I know :-)
Allen Cunnningham
John Juanda
Scotty Nguyen
This pick will not be allowed.
Shark527
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 5:35 PM
I havn't seen Kirk Morrison mentioned anywhere. He had 5 cashes last year in big fields.
Anyone besides me pick Hellmuth? I havn't seen him on anyone's list either.
fighter
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 6:54 PM
QUOTE (SlapStick @ Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 1:57 AM)

Is that your team or just a reference of standard picks? as you could have just quoted DN, thats his exact short list
Reference to DN's picks being the standard.
Not my team, I dont want to split first with 7 others.
QUOTE (Shark527 @ Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 11:35 AM)

I havn't seen Kirk Morrison mentioned anywhere. He had 5 cashes last year in big fields.
Anyone besides me pick Hellmuth? I havn't seen him on anyone's list either.
Lots would pick Hellmuth but considering he has 11 NL HOLDEM braslets and this being mixed games his selection is a suckers choice.
king_tanner
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 7:24 PM
I got:
Freddy Deeb
DN
Barry Greenstein
Erik Seidel
Andy Bloch
Huck Seed
Tom Dwan
Ted Forrest
Nick Schulman
Erick Lindgren
I think Schulman might be an unconventional pick. I have noticed he has been playing high stakes a lot on FTP, and I think he will play in a lot of the higher events.
Huck might be also, I know he plays the non-holdem games, but will he play all those events?
I was also thinking of Robert Williamson III because of his omaha results, but I'm not sure if he plays anything else.
Shark527
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 7:42 PM
QUOTE (fighter @ Monday, May 19th, 2008, 6:54 PM)

Lots would pick Hellmuth but considering he has 11 NL HOLDEM braslets and this being mixed games his selection is a suckers choice.
That is why he is the biggest unconventional pick possible.
HskrNation954
Monday, May 19th, 2008, 10:30 PM
I've noticed Paul Wasicka lately expanding his game. I also chose Allen Cunningham and Anndy Bloch as non-conventional picks.
LJB723
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 2:30 AM
QUOTE (HskrNation954 @ Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 7:30 AM)

I've noticed Paul Wasicka lately expanding his game. I also chose Allen Cunningham and Anndy Bloch as non-conventional picks.
Hardly unconventional.
potatoman
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 5:36 AM
David Singer? Good stud player and has had decent results in the Horse event.
SlapStick
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 8:31 AM
QUOTE (potatoman @ Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 4:36 PM)

David Singer? Good stud player and has had decent results in the Horse event.
ssshhhhhhhhh
KingJames
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 8:44 AM
Jennifer Harman is a good pick for mixed games...
king_tanner
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 10:02 AM
QUOTE (potatoman @ Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 6:36 AM)

David Singer? Good stud player and has had decent results in the Horse event.
CRAP!!! forgot about him.
herokid7
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 10:08 AM
My list:
Lindgren
Hellmuth
Matusow
Antonius
Greenstein
Negreanu
Laak
Esfandiari
Traniello
Hansen
FHgrad99
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 10:34 AM
Here is who I picked:
-Daniel Negreanu
-Phil Hellmuth
-Phil Ivey
-Doyle Brunson
-Erik Seidel
-Allen Cunningham
-John Juanda
-Chris "Jesus" Ferguson
-Erick Lindgren-He's due
-Greg Raymer-He's done well in Stud Events since his WSOP win. He's not nearly as one-dimensional as the other recent WSOP Main Event winners seem to be.
SlapStick
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 10:46 AM
I really don't know why people would point out little gems like David Singer etc before the draft is locked up, already 2 of my non-standard picks have been outed

.
I went with the hardly anyone else will have them strategy, so I have 6 standardish and 4 not so obvious, hopefully my other 2 will stand a chance
potatoman
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 1:54 PM
Raymer's a great pick I didn't take.
imphic
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 1:58 PM
On one hand I agree if someone thought of a great pick it benefits him/her to not tell everyone, on the other hand its a no stack game, so sharing at this forum is no surprise. If we were taking it seriously, I would try to give out bad pick ideas of accomplished players who will probably not be in the WSOP events, such as Chip Reese (RIP).
SlapStick
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 2:05 PM
QUOTE (imphic @ Wednesday, May 21st, 2008, 12:58 AM)

On one hand I agree if someone thought of a great pick it benefits him/her to not tell everyone, on the other hand its a no stack game, so sharing at this forum is no surprise. If we were taking it seriously, I would try to give out bad pick ideas of accomplished players who will probably not be in the WSOP events, such as Chip Reese (RIP).
pfffttt.
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potatoman
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 3:23 PM
I think most people entering this draft can be divided into two pools. Those who checked who final tabled in the last two $50K horse events and those that didn't. Giving up a couple of names isn't going to matter much with this format.
If a couple more people take David Singer, whatever. They only get ten picks, which means they'll have to drop someone equally as good.
I could name off at least ten lesser knowns that would easily be on pair with Singer or better. A couple, like Bill Edler and the Grinder have already been mentioned. With a bit of research, I'm sure I could name off another 30 players.
I'd advise people to pick players they enjoy cheering for. This draft, while enjoyable and appreciated, is too simplistic to worry your head over it too much.
SlapStick
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 3:25 PM
Enjoy your hat!
Thriceknurd
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 4:44 PM
Any thoughts on Robert Williamson III?
FREEROLLER13
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 6:15 PM
DANIEL NEGREANU
SCOTT CLEMENTS
PHIL HELLMUTH JR.
JUAN CARLOS MORTENSEN
CORY CARROLL
CHRIS FERGUSON
PHIL IVEY
ALLEN CUNNINGHAM
GUS HANSEN
DAVID PHAM
beforetoday4
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 11:16 PM
Glad to see I'm not the only one who chose Clements. Here's mine for what it's worth:
Daniel Negreanu
Allen Cunningham
Scott Clements
Erick Lindgren
Phil Ivey
Kenny Tran
Phil Hellmuth
Kirk Morrison
David Singer
Ted Forrest
Swiftfish
Wednesday, May 21st, 2008, 1:19 AM
Really should've thought of Michael Binger. Marco Traniello's also a decent idea given his amount of cashes. Ah well, bit late now! I'm one of the suckers who's picked Phil Hellmuth. He might have won all his bracelets in hold 'em but he has like, 13 final tables in other events. I actually don't think he's as much of a one trick pony as people make him out to be.
I went for the usuals plus a few wildcards who I think might do well. Kirk Morrison's already been mentioned but I'm surprised no-one else (that I've seen) has said Kenny Tran yet. I've taken a risk as well with a couple of hold 'em guys who just might branch out into other events this year.
queenace11136
Wednesday, May 21st, 2008, 4:01 AM
Daniel Negreanu
Ted Forrest
Mike Matusow
Barry Greenstein
Allen Cunningham
Tom Dwan
Jimmy Fricke
Chris Ferguson
J.C. Tran
Patrik Antonius
Gobbo and Durrr for my darkhorses
joelreed
Wednesday, May 21st, 2008, 5:45 AM
There is no way anyone can consider Hellmuth a Dark horse or unconvential, thats just non sensical.
I took some real long shots and some standard.
And Hey I would like a hat!!!
Good lcuk all
outsider13
Wednesday, May 21st, 2008, 5:50 AM
QUOTE (joelreed @ Wednesday, May 21st, 2008, 8:45 AM)

There is no way anyone can consider Hellmuth a Dark horse or unconvential, thats just non sensical.
I took some real long shots and some standard.
And Hey I would like a hat!!!
Good lcuk all
I took Hellmuth, but he is VERY unconventional. The guy really sucks in mixed games, and considering the list of games, he's probably not a good choice imo.
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