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Preflop: Hero is SB with 2 , J .
3 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) J , T , 3 (4 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 raises, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

River: (5 BB) 2 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: 5 BB

Did I play this right and just got incredibly unlucky that I didn't get to check/raise the turn? Maybe put more bets in on the flop?

I'm not a limit player, but look at the board. You have top pair with a heart flush draw on the board. Why not lead out the turn? The 2c surely can't be a scare card for anybody, and it looks like you are still drawing.

Bad

I would lead the turn.

Would it be a mistake to re-raise that flop? We got top pair and a strong draw and the button would have to call a reraise.

3-bet the flop baby!

3-way out of position I just call the flop. Go for a check-raise on the turn. Obviously bet the river.

Well played.

flop is ez 3 bet, then lead turn.

Your equity edge on the flop doesn't care about your position.

nice.


I don't think we are strong enough to c/r the turn vs how high our equity edge is on the flop.
I hope I make sense and am not toally off

OK, that's what I thought after the hand. More bets on the flop.

I think those saying lead the turn (as played) are being results oriented. As played this is a standard check/raise right?

Yeah. Although it shouldn't come to it, since we would have had the lead, most of the time, had we 3-bet the flop. If I didn't, though, c/r is awesome.

nope, i got ya
TPNK plus a flush draw is way stronger on the flop than on a missed turn, 3 handed equity wise.
against TP and a straight draw, we're 43% on the flop, 28% on the turn
we're going from 35% to 21% on the turn against 2pair+ and a draw.
basically, our equity is way better on the flop than the turn.

c/r the turn is good as played, but i wouldve 3'd the flop.

note that MP1 raises draws on the flop, even if it shuts out the field
and Button's not very aggressive, and will take free cards with draws.

What's the play on the turn as played if a 4d fell?

c/c yes?

And as is though, why not lead the turn?
Couldn't this have been a free card play?
Getting chekd thru when we have two pair really blows

its the funniest thing about free card plays. people always seem to make them but never seem to take them...

kind of like bet/fold on the river when the flush hits.....

yeah i go with c/c on a blank turn

checking through does suck, but that's being results oriented.
c/r is by far the best play on the turn by this point, because we can trap button for two.

you make good analogy; but with this drawy board and the fact both players called, I would see this as a time they actually take the free card,.
He doesn't have a monster, given no pfr. Draws are a huge part of his range

33 and JT make pretty good hands and are hardly raised preflop
might've been trying for the AA or KK limp/reraise
not everyone raises TT or hell even JJ, though to a lesser degree.
AJ and KJ aren't monsters, but are in his range.

yes, draws do make up a large part of it, but we can't rule out big made hands.

I guess I should say "The chance he has a draw is higher relatively speaking, given the pf action and the board and his pos, than the set of all possible scenarios of a flop raise"

Or at least for some people I should have said it that way

basically you mean it's a draw heavy board, so his raise could be more than a made hand.
and youre right. but it also could be a made a hand.

none of this really matters if we 3 bet the flop

Yeah, like the odds of winning the lottery are 50/50.
You do or you don't
Exactly
You totally get it.

thanks.



Yep. But that's obvious