Live game. So last night I saw what I thought was a weak game at a higher limit than I usually play. I sat down for my very first hand at this limit and am in the cutoff and have to post the big. Folds around to me and I raise with q-9 offsuit looking to steal the first hand. Button and both blinds call. ugh.

The button is a crazy, loud player who drinks alot and plays half time down at the level I normally play. I am not scared of him at all. Flop is 10-8-6 three suited. Giving me the double-gutter. Blinds check and I bet. Button raises and both blinds fold. Button would raise a 10, 8, 6, pair of 7s or 9s. I can see him possibly raising any 7 or 9 in this situation too. He is crazy aggressive on the flop. I call and the turn is Jd. Two diamonds on the board. I check, he bets, I raise, he re-raises and since we are heads up, we are unlimited. When he put the 9th bet in on the turn, I thought it was possible for him to have Q9d. So I called looking to avoid the flush.

Wrong move? How far do I take the nuts on the turn without a re-draw against a very aggressive player? We both could've put another 6-8 bets in before all-in.

I have yet to see someone raise past the standard cap without the nuts plus a redraw. You could probably stop on the 5th bet. Why not bet the turn. If you check and he checks behind and gets the flush on the river you'd be kicking yourself.

He's aggressive villain, likely EV higher to c/r


OP,

The question has no answer.

It's totally related to how aggressive villain is
I take it Rake is maxed well before the point of decision would come.

There's only a 20% chance of the flush hitting; but you gain nothing by betting against any Q9.

so like I said, how can we answer this?

I can give you a math formula where you plug in how many bets he's go with various hands and how often he has those hands...
but I'm going to see Juno tonight.

I would think 9 bets is too many. By the time it gets to 5 or 6 bets, there is a very very strong chance he has Q9 as well and a small chance he has the diamond redraw. 5 or 6 bets is plenty here.

OK, I feel sane again. The hand made me over a grand (playing big enough where the rake doesn't matter much - 20-40). River was a Qh. I check called the river - should've led out, but in the end it actually didn't matter. I scooped this pot and went back and thought I should've put this guys entire stack in because he seemed willing. This guy was crazy, rich and partially drunk. Explains his making this move with what he had.... sort of.

Set of Jacks.... Said he didn't see the straight - I guess I believe him. Maybe that is why I should keep going.

btw - this 20-40 game was looser than you can imagine. Rich people looking for a good time. Raise, reraise and cap in the dark... live straddles 2 or 3 times per trip. Rich guy buying everyone at the table drinks constantly.

Fortune favors the brave. Congrats on good game selection and the courage to take a shot.