I'm new to the table, about 10 hands in. I pick up AKs and 3-bet preflop, HU on an A high flop with two low cards, no flush possibilities. How's this line work for you guys. I figured I had the best hand all the way but chose to play it passively in an attempt to extract value from a weaker hand. I guess the real question is for my decision to just call on the river and not raise for value with him betting into me on the turn and river after he check raised me on the flop. Is there any chance we can raise here and get called by a worse hand on this board?


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MP2 ($35.95)
MP3 ($65.60)
CO ($67.80)
Button ($44.40)
Hero ($66.05)
BB ($99.50)
UTG ($50)
UTG+1 ($24.20)
MP1 ($38.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K.
4 folds, MP3 calls $0.50, CO raises to $1.5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, MP3 folds, CO calls $3.50.

Flop: ($11) 4, 5, A (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO raises to $14, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($39) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $10, Hero calls $10.

River: ($59) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $12.5, Hero calls $12.50.

Final Pot: $84

i think with the way he is betting u probably couldnt extract any more money by raising after the river if he has an weaker hand. My guess u raise he folds or calls and has a set or possibly a 2 for a str8, but highly unlikely.

I absolutely hate this line from the turn on... either believe him that he has a set and dump it, or check-pump the turn... it's like you're trying to split the difference between getting value from worse hands and minimizing damage against sets...


that and... LOL3BETPOTTPTKGOBROKEONTHEFLOP

There are no hands with a two in is in his range after the flop and no hands with a six in is in his range after the flop. No hand in his range flops, turns or rivers two pair.

I would say with a reasonable degree of certainty that he has something like AQ/AJ here, his weak raise on the flop looks like a timid raise for information, and his value bets are very weak and not pricing out any draw. A set doesn't bet the turn and river this weakly when there is so much value to be had from your range with an ace on board.

I think you will get more value from his range if you bet the turn and the river, as you are probably going to get called down by a weaker ace for a better price than $10 and $12. However, Since we have the opportunity to raise the river and we know there is value to be had from his range let's go ahead and do it. Just make sure it is an amount a weaker ace that is already afraid you have AK can call.

He showed AQ, right?

After you call the flop, you basically have to call him all the way down, especially when he keeps betting tiny.

River raise is pointless because he's probably not calling a shove with anything you beat after he bets like 1/5 the pot.

I didn't actually realize it we had so little behind on the river, but CO only has $25.30 left. If we shove the river now there is no way he can fold any hand for $25 more. He is going to be getting like 4.4:1 on the call.

It doesn't matter much though - he's not calling with a busted draw, and I don't see how he would call with a underpair to the ace because it's just almost impossible we're going to bet/call, c/c, c/rai on the river with absolutely nothing.

Unless he has an ace, whatever pot odds he may be getting, he'll probably fold.

I like it. This is just about the size pot you want to play with a TPTK hand. Actually it's a bit large but that can't be helped.

I think this is one of those spots where you're more likely ahead with villain putting in the bets. Ie he'll bet more hands than he'll call. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see villain turn up with QQ at showdown. He c/r's the flop to "see where he's at" and then since you don't re-raise "you can't have an ace" so he meekly value bets into you the whole way. People will get married to big pairs in all sorts of strange/stubborn ways.



Why do you think this is a bad thing? His range is predominantly hands that we beat that mostly won't call a raise at any point. Sets are also possible but I think fairly unlikely. I think this line really maximizes vs his range.

An ace comprises most of his range on the river imo, and that is why there is definitely value in shoving the river.

Based on pure hand combinations alone:

6 hand combinations result in a set which will call.
21 hands combinations result in an underpair (TT-KK) which will probably fold.
24 hand combinations result in an ace (AQ/AJ) which will call.

Not to mention the fact it is kind of obvious that if he had a set he wouldn't miss $25 of value when he flopped a set with an ace on board. None of the two pairs are in his range and neither are the straights.

His range is really narrow here dude.

Its a 3bet pot. I'm looking to get it all in somewhere here, at least by the turn. If he flopped a set oh well, and if not, you're stacking AQ here. Since he min raised me on the flop, I'd min raise him back

Mark

Checkraise turn or river or something please.

I really don't think a weaker hand calls a check raise on the river, but doing so on the turn was possible. The reason I chose not to check raise on the turn was that his bet was so weak I really felt I would fold out every hand I was beating. By calling I figured he just might make another bet on the river, or even push. I know it was a really passive line, but I figured it was the best way to get an extra bet from him on the river. His mini-raise on the flop sold me on him betting each street thereafter. And because I didn't repop on the flop, I figured he may think he had fold equity come the river. By not raising the turn he still has a decent enough amount to do something stupid when I checked it to him on the river.


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MP2 ($35.95)
MP3 ($65.60)
CO ($67.80)
Button ($44.40)
Hero ($66.05)
BB ($99.50)
UTG ($50)
UTG+1 ($24.20)
MP1 ($38.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K.
4 folds, MP3 calls $0.50, CO raises to $1.5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, MP3 folds, CO calls $3.50.

Flop: ($11) 4, 5, A (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO raises to $14, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($39) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $10, Hero calls $10.

River: ($59) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $12.5, Hero calls $12.50.

Final Pot: $84

Hero has Ah Kh (one pair, aces).
CO has 8d 8h (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Hero wins $84.