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Money022
Low content warning. Just fine tuning my play and would like to know what you guys do in these situations. Villian is fairly weak all around.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG+1 ($20.50)
MP1 ($11.75)
MP2 ($81.50)
MP3 ($10)
CO ($47.95)
Hero ($76.80)
SB ($47.50)
BB ($37.40)
UTG ($48.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[icon_suit_diamond.gif], A[icon_suit_spade.gif].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, 2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) J[icon_suit_spade.gif], 5[icon_suit_heart.gif], Q[icon_suit_diamond.gif] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets $2, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 folds, CO folds.

Turn: ($7) Q[icon_suit_club.gif] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero ?


Do you guys normally fire another bullet here?
No_Neck
QUOTE (Money022 @ Tuesday, April 8th, 2008, 11:32 PM) *
Low content warning. Just fine tuning my play and would like to know what you guys do in these situations. Villian is fairly weak all around.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG+1 ($20.50)
MP1 ($11.75)
MP2 ($81.50)
MP3 ($10)
CO ($47.95)
Hero ($76.80)
SB ($47.50)
BB ($37.40)
UTG ($48.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[icon_suit_diamond.gif], A[icon_suit_spade.gif].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, 2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) J[icon_suit_spade.gif], 5[icon_suit_heart.gif], Q[icon_suit_diamond.gif] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets $2, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 folds, CO folds.

Turn: ($7) Q[icon_suit_club.gif] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero ?
Do you guys normally fire another bullet here?


I usually fire another bet here and just check down on the river, unless it is something really good.
AimHigher
I raise the button to try and isolate one of the limpers. The last thing I want to do is see a flop with AJ against 5 players.

After the flop I would bet/fold the turn. There are draws out there like K9 and T9. Since there is value to be had from those hands you can bet the turn quite comfortably. You can also fold to a check raise since nothing you beat is likely to check-raise on that turn unless you feel he is a particularly tricky or aggressive player.
Money022
Yeah, after looking over the hand history, before your reply, I wondered why I just didn't raise preflop.
Dictius
Bet/fold turn for value from straight draws/worse jacks/middle pairs imo
MikeBauer26
QUOTE (Dictius @ Wednesday, April 9th, 2008, 8:05 AM) *
Bet/fold turn for value from straight draws/worse jacks/middle pairs imo


Technical question:

Am I getting the "Bet/Fold" right?

the rule is
We are betting when checked to and folding otherwise?
Does it also include a suggestion for being checkraised? (Fold I guess)

For the given hand I don't fire a second barrel as I really can't see him playing a T9 or KT from UTG even though he is weak. Even the weakest players at .50 should have picked up a tad about starting hands for UTG at .50?

My guess is he has the third Q and is happy slowplaying it or is not going to call a further bet with a hand you beat anyway so my bet here has -EV
Moneyball16
QUOTE (MikeBauer26 @ Wednesday, April 9th, 2008, 2:26 AM) *
Technical question:

Am I getting the "Bet/Fold" right?

the rule is
We are betting when checked to and folding otherwise?
Does it also include a suggestion for being checkraised? (Fold I guess)

For the given hand I don't fire a second barrel as I really can't see him playing a T9 or KT from UTG even though he is weak. Even the weakest players at .50 should have picked up a tad about starting hands for UTG at .50?

My guess is he has the third Q and is happy slowplaying it or is not going to call a further bet with a hand you beat anyway so my bet here has -EV

Bet/folding just means bet and fold a raise, it assumes that the player has already checked to us.

Thinking that people at 50nl wont play T9 or KT in EP is wrong. I think most non regulars would play both T9s and KTs almost always in EP and definitely some offsuit combinations of the hands. Donks will play junk like this in EP at all stakes.

As for the hand I would b/f the turn and depending on how weak he is and what came on the river I may value bet it too.
Sheiky
Meh, i think i'd rather check the turn and bet the river than bet the river and check the turn, and i'm not sure if i could value bet both streets without a read.
Money022
So mixed responses. Cool with that.

Based on my observation of the villian I knew he was weak and rarely had the Q. I figured I would throw out another bet and probably take down the pot most of the time anyways. Perhaps checking behind and calling a bet on the river extracts value from non Q hands as I have the nuts to anything but a Q.

Anyway, I bet $4 and he folded.
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