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wheezer16
Sorry...don't know how to fix the hand converter.

Villian is a tight-aggressive winning player:

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Seat 1: Dodolela06 ($37.90) -
Seat 2: whezer16 ($100) -
Seat 3: asendorf ($82.40)
Seat 4: sipoon_kim ($102.20)
Seat 5: jrockhaf ($193.50)
Seat 6: tigerley89 ($47.50)
Seat 7: GDAZ31 ($30.70)
Seat 8: ibiza007 ($98.50)
Seat 9: HitmanHaydon ($108.20) -


[size:14pt][color:#000000]PRE-FLOP:[/size][/color]

Dodolela06 [color:#272BA6]posts small blind $0.50[/color]
whezer16 [color:#272BA6]posts BIG blind $1[/color]
Dealt To: whezer16


[color:#000000]FOLD asendorf[/color]
[color:#000000]FOLD sipoon_kim[/color]
[color:#000000]FOLD jrockhaf[/color]
[color:#B93238]CALL tigerley89[/color] ($1)
[color:#B93238]CALL GDAZ31[/color] ($1)
[color:#000000]FOLD ibiza007[/color]
[color:#272BA6]RAISE HitmanHaydon[/color] ($6)
[color:#000000]FOLD Dodolela06[/color]
[color:#B93238]CALL whezer16[/color] ($5)
[color:#B93238]CALL tigerley89[/color] ($5)
[color:#000000]FOLD GDAZ31[/color]


[size:14pt][color:#000000]FLOP:[/size][/color]

Pot: $19.5
   

[color:#000000]CHECK whezer16[/color]
[color:#000000]CHECK tigerley89[/color]
[color:#272BA6]BET HitmanHaydon[/color] ($16)
[color:#272BA6]RAISE whezer16[/color] ($34)
[color:#000000]FOLD tigerley89[/color]
[color:#272BA6]RAISE HitmanHaydon[/color] ($102.20)
[color:#000000]FOLD whezer16[/color]

[color:#007F11]HitmanHaydon collected $84.5 from main pot[/color]

[size:14pt][color:#000000]SUMMARY:[/color][/size] Total pot: $87 Rake: $3

Final Board:
   

Seat 1: Dodolela06 small blind folded before Flop - Net Gain/Loss: ($-0.5)
Seat 2: whezer16 big blind folded on the Flop - Net Gain/Loss: ($-40)
Seat 3: asendorf folded before Flop didnt bet - Net Gain/Loss: ($0)
Seat 4: sipoon_kim folded before Flop didnt bet - Net Gain/Loss: ($0)
Seat 5: jrockhaf folded before Flop didnt bet - Net Gain/Loss: ($0)
Seat 6: tigerley89 folded on the Flop - Net Gain/Loss: ($-6)
Seat 7: GDAZ31 folded before Flop - Net Gain/Loss: ($-1)
Seat 8: ibiza007 folded before Flop didnt bet - Net Gain/Loss: ($0)
Seat 9: HitmanHaydon button collected 84.50 - Net Gain/Loss: ($29.5)


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Sheiky
Looks fine.
AimHigher
I would probably want to re-raise against a button raiser preflop, I'm sure he has a reasonably legitimate hand since he is raising on two limpers but we are ahead of his range IMO.

I would rather lead the flop because the board is very drawy (straight draw/flush draw) than go for a check and risk it getting checked through. Check-raising is acceptable if you know that the button raiser makes frequent continuation bets though.

Also if you paste the HH into notepad and go Edit -> Replace then type ":#" in the find box and "=" in the replace box, hit go and then paste it into the edit box for this thread it SHOULD fix the hand history.

Edit: I just saw he re-raised you after you check raised, but the cards aren't showing up so I can't post an opinion on that. =P
NonZeroPossibility
blah... Hate this spot. Only thing you beat that shoves here is KJ or flush draw.... Split to AK. Lose to AA, KK, QQ, KQ, 55. Reluctantly fold I think.
David_Nicoson
Villian is a tight-aggressive winning player:

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Seat 1: Dodolela06 ($37.90) -
Seat 2: whezer16 ($100) -
Seat 3: asendorf ($82.40)
Seat 4: sipoon_kim ($102.20)
Seat 5: jrockhaf ($193.50)
Seat 6: tigerley89 ($47.50)
Seat 7: GDAZ31 ($30.70)
Seat 8: ibiza007 ($98.50)
Seat 9: HitmanHaydon ($108.20) -
PRE-FLOP:

Dodolela06 posts small blind $0.50
whezer16 posts BIG blind $1
Dealt To: whezer16


FOLD asendorf
FOLD sipoon_kim
FOLD jrockhaf
CALL tigerley89($1)
CALL GDAZ31($1)
FOLD ibiza007
RAISE HitmanHaydon($6)
FOLD Dodolela06
CALL whezer16($5)
CALL tigerley89($5)
FOLD GDAZ31
FLOP:

Pot: $19.5


CHECK whezer16
CHECK tigerley89
BET HitmanHaydon($16)
RAISE whezer16($34)
FOLD tigerley89
RAISE HitmanHaydon($102.20)
whezer16 ?
simo_8ball
I repop to $22 preflop and call a shove.

As played, if you aren't calling a shove don't raise the flop.
Dictius
If villain really is a tight aggressive winning player, then he probably has some sense of position and has a fairly wide range on the button, so I would definitely be reraising preflop.

On the flop I might lead out on this draw heavy board and prevent him taking a free card to hit a draw. There are a bunch of cards that we don't want on the turn (any broadway card and any spade).

When you decide to check/raise, why did you essentially minraise? I don't think that achieves much, it gives a good price for lots of hands (spades, TJ) to call and try and outdraw you ($18 more for the villain to with ~$70 in the pot). I can't really think of a good amount to check/raise that will give villain sufficiently bad odds to call and draw and won't leave an awkward amount of money left on the turn. I think this is why I prefer leading out.
wheezer16
QUOTE (Dictius @ Tuesday, April 8th, 2008, 3:16 PM) *
If villain really is a tight aggressive winning player, then he probably has some sense of position and has a fairly wide range on the button, so I would definitely be reraising preflop.

On the flop I might lead out on this draw heavy board and prevent him taking a free card to hit a draw. There are a bunch of cards that we don't want on the turn (any broadway card and any spade).

When you decide to check/raise, why did you essentially minraise? I don't think that achieves much, it gives a good price for lots of hands (spades, TJ) to call and try and outdraw you ($18 more for the villain to with ~$70 in the pot). I can't really think of a good amount to check/raise that will give villain sufficiently bad odds to call and draw and won't leave an awkward amount of money left on the turn. I think this is why I prefer leading out.


Thanks for all the feedback.

I agree that a pf reraise is probably in order. I also agree that the min. raise on the turn is a little weak, but it usually gets me the info I want without pot-committing myself. I will re-raise more in these situations in the future.

The only way it seems that I get away from this hand is if he 3 bets all-in preflop.
wheezer16
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Tuesday, April 8th, 2008, 2:59 PM) *
Villian is a tight-aggressive winning player:

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Seat 1: Dodolela06 ($37.90) -
Seat 2: whezer16 ($100) -
Seat 3: asendorf ($82.40)
Seat 4: sipoon_kim ($102.20)
Seat 5: jrockhaf ($193.50)
Seat 6: tigerley89 ($47.50)
Seat 7: GDAZ31 ($30.70)
Seat 8: ibiza007 ($98.50)
Seat 9: HitmanHaydon ($108.20) -
PRE-FLOP:

Dodolela06 posts small blind $0.50
whezer16 posts BIG blind $1
Dealt To: whezer16


FOLD asendorf
FOLD sipoon_kim
FOLD jrockhaf
CALL tigerley89($1)
CALL GDAZ31($1)
FOLD ibiza007
RAISE HitmanHaydon($6)
FOLD Dodolela06
CALL whezer16($5)
CALL tigerley89($5)
FOLD GDAZ31
FLOP:

Pot: $19.5


CHECK whezer16
CHECK tigerley89
BET HitmanHaydon($16)
RAISE whezer16($34)
FOLD tigerley89
RAISE HitmanHaydon($102.20)
whezer16 ?


Thanks for the fix!
simo_8ball
QUOTE (wheezer16 @ Wednesday, April 9th, 2008, 12:50 AM) *
The only way it seems that I get away from this hand is if he 3 bets all-in preflop.

FWIW, if I 3-bet to $22 I'm pretty much snap calling a shove.
AimHigher
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Wednesday, April 9th, 2008, 12:01 AM) *
FWIW, if I 3-bet to $22 I'm pretty much snap calling a shove.


What kind of range is he shoving into your 3-bet with?
simo_8ball
QUOTE (AimHigher @ Wednesday, April 9th, 2008, 1:07 AM) *
What kind of range is he shoving into your 3-bet with?

A range that I have >78/203 equity against.
AimHigher
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Wednesday, April 9th, 2008, 12:11 AM) *
A range that I have >78/203 equity against.


bubble_lol.gif Now go answer my questions in "bored at work" and I'll try not to hound you for knowledge too much more. icon_cool.gif
simo_8ball
QUOTE (AimHigher @ Wednesday, April 9th, 2008, 1:15 AM) *
bubble_lol.gif Now go answer my questions in "bored at work" and I'll try not to hound you for knowledge too much more. icon_cool.gif

If villain is a thinking player he should shove AQ and 99 there preflop against me.

If he's a nit then it's closer, but a "decent TAG" is never folding AK or QQ there, and I have equity enough to call against that range.
AimHigher
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Wednesday, April 9th, 2008, 12:32 AM) *
If villain is a thinking player he should shove AQ and 99 there preflop against me.

If he's a nit then it's closer, but a "decent TAG" is never folding AK or QQ there, and I have equity enough to call against that range.


Yeah that makes sense, it's pretty much a break even call but if you throw in jacks it is definitely profitable.
Dictius
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