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deadmoney19
I find myself running into this situation and im not real sure what i should do

I will have a hand like QQAJ and the board will come something like Q87 with two diamonds i will raise and two other ppl will put all the money in and i will call and lose when the draw hits.should i be folding when something like a multi way all in occurs or do i just have to call and hope my oponents dont hit?

hope this post isnt too confusing
NonZeroPossibility
QUOTE (deadmoney19 @ Sunday, April 6th, 2008, 8:13 PM) *
I find myself running into this situation and im not real sure what i should do

I will have a hand like QQAJ and the board will come something like Q87 with two diamonds i will raise and two other ppl will put all the money in and i will call and lose when the draw hits.should i be folding when something like a multi way all in occurs or do i just have to call and hope my oponents dont hit?

hope this post isnt too confusing


So you're asking if you should fold when you're the favorite?
deadmoney19
QUOTE (NonZeroPossibility @ Sunday, April 6th, 2008, 8:31 PM) *
So you're asking if you should fold when you're the favorite?

percisely
bdc30
I don't know about anyone else, but I enjoy getting my money in 3-ways as a 50% favourite.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=4509400
pokenum -o qs qc as jc - 9h tc td jh - ad kh 2d 5c -- qh 7d 8d
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing 8d 7d Qh
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Qs Qc Jc 345 51.80 317 47.60 4 0.60 0.521
Tc Td Jh 9h 149 22.37 513 77.03 4 0.60 0.227
5c Ad 2d Kh 168 25.23 498 74.77 0 0.00 0.252

(assuming one guy with the middle straight/wrap and the other with a flush)

You'll win half the time in a 3 way pot. Good enough, over the long term
TRB05
give me set 3-ways all day plzkthx. haha I'm such a e-dork - plzkthx
bdc30
QUOTE (TRB05 @ Monday, April 7th, 2008, 12:26 AM) *
haha I'm such a e-dork


[x] obv, imo
KoRnholio
Never, ever fold top set when it's the nuts. Doesn't matter if it's heads up or multiway.

The only time to fold the nuts in PLO is with the nut straight on a drawy board with deep stacks and villain(s) who are betting like you are being freerolled.
TRB05
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Sunday, April 6th, 2008, 11:27 PM) *
[x] obv, imo



Lots of Age + lots of Alcohol + lots of psuedo confidence (from running good)= e-dork
simo_8ball
You should only fold the nuts if it's a straight. On a board with a flush draw. And multiple higher straight draws. And you have no redraw. And there are several people betting/raising.

Other than that, you generally don't fold the nuts.
BudBundy
For example ,

8765ds without any hearts (Because obv ds hands never flop a flush draw) on a T96 flop with two hearts. There is a bet and a raise before you. Easy muck IMO.
jmbreslin
Heads-up a set is only a dog to a 16+ card draw. With more than one villain you're in better shape because the chances are increased that their draws overlap with one another (assuming they're both on a draw).
iggymcfly
FWIW, I've played over 200K hands on Stars in the last year, and I'm not sure if I can remember ever folding the nut straight. I folded quads once when I was against a straight flush but I still haven't found a spot where the nut straight wasn't worth at least a call.

Oh, and to OP, this site might be for you:

http://www.imawhinylittlebitchwhocanthandlevariance.com
jdrury12
You have to understand a 50% favorite when you only put 33% of the chips in will only win 50% of the time, not 100%. It's a good play, and that's what you have to go with.
dingas
I think that we could come up with a theoretical situation where it would be correct to fold top set when it is the nuts. For example, if two short-stacked opponents were all-in with undersets to your set (meaning your full-house outs are dead), and a deep-stacked opponent pushed with a monster flush+wrap draw. But obviously, this situation has no practical relevance.
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