DonkSlayer
Thursday, April 3rd, 2008, 12:47 PM
FlopTurnRiver just didn't like this HH for some reason. If anyone wants to convert it I'll gladly fmp or at least tell me what part of the HH is making the converter mess up. Should I slow down on the turn?
Full Tilt Poker Game #5893930234: Table Kraemer (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 16:33:29 ET - 2008/04/03
Seat 1: kiggity ($127.65)
Seat 2: hemme71 ($211.90)
Seat 3: moc podsvijesti ($12.40)
Seat 4: JsBond ($93.40)
Seat 5: caldwel ($52.50)
Seat 6: Alrightlaurie ($56)
JsBond posts the small blind of $0.50
caldwel posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JsBond [Ks 2c 3s Ah]
kiggity folds
hemme71 calls $1
moc podsvijesti calls $1
JsBond calls $0.50
caldwel checks
*** FLOP *** [3c 2s 8s]
JsBond bets $4
caldwel calls $4
hemme71 calls $4
moc podsvijesti folds
*** TURN *** [As]
JsBond bets $16...
No reads except people play bad.
bdc30
Thursday, April 3rd, 2008, 12:55 PM
Preflop call I can go either way on. Otherwise standard
jmbreslin
Friday, April 4th, 2008, 11:57 AM
I don't know, you potted the flop and got called by 2 players. With the Ks in your hand and the As falling on the turn, the chances of people chasing a worse spade draw on the flop are slimmer. Nobody raised PF, and with an A in your hand and one on the turn, someone calling with AAxx is unlikely. So I think you have to put one of them on a set of 8's. If so, that means you have to hit one of the remaining Aces or a spade (but not the 3s) to win the hand. I just don't think you can put both of them on draws here.
bdc30
Friday, April 4th, 2008, 3:18 PM
QUOTE (jmbreslin @ Friday, April 4th, 2008, 3:57 PM)

So I think you have to put one of them on a set of 8's. If so, that means you have to hit one of the remaining Aces or a spade (but not the 3s) to win the hand.
We haaaaaaaaaas teh noooooooooooooooots. Bet.
jmbreslin
Friday, April 4th, 2008, 4:43 PM
LOL, I didn't even notice Hero turned the nut flush...
bdc30
Friday, April 4th, 2008, 5:02 PM
Which is well disguised too, since we bet the flop. Bet bet bet bet bet!
simo_8ball
Friday, April 4th, 2008, 5:31 PM
QUOTE (jmbreslin @ Saturday, April 5th, 2008, 1:43 AM)

LOL, I didn't even notice Hero turned the nut flush...
I wrote a full response yesterday, going into some specific detail as to why we shouldn't bet the turn here.
Then I saw we had the nuts, so I got annoyed about wasting my time and closed firefox.
BudBundy
Saturday, April 5th, 2008, 7:09 PM
I am very very very very very rarely slowplaying nut flush with the K in my hand. When the ace is out there , people hardly lay down their low flushes. Just bet and watch them call you with 7 high or something.
DonkSlayer
Monday, April 7th, 2008, 7:25 AM
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Saturday, April 5th, 2008, 11:09 PM)

I am very very very very very rarely slowplaying nut flush with the K in my hand. When the ace is out there , people hardly lay down their low flushes. Just bet and watch them call you with 7 high or something.
Yeah that's a really good point. If I led the flop and then the turn when it was obv I didn't have the nut flush draw, i'm probably getting a lot of value with continuing there.
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