Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($4.40)
UTG+1 ($25)
MP1 ($37.80)
Hero ($24.75)
MP3 ($66.35)
CO ($5.50)
Button ($23.65)
SB ($19)
BB ($24)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9, J.
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.8, 4 folds, BB calls $0.55.

Flop: ($1.70) K, J, 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.4, BB calls $1.40.

Turn: ($4.50) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.

River: ($10.50) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $10.50


Villian has been playing fairly tight and aggressive, betting hard when strong.

Should i have been betting the 2 pr harder or should i play as played? What about value betting the river?

I like this line except for the river.

I mean... I'm a check behind whore to get showdowns... but you can't check this river... it's really rare that someone will make the flush, c-c the turn AND c-r the river... you can confidently fold to a river C-R though.

Other than that nh

Flop:
I bet harder here. Something about 2 $. If I get called and the turn complets the obvious draw I can shut down.
Because either the draw hit or a tight villain wouldn't have been calling with a weaker hand anyway.

Turn:
I check behind here figuring I don't have the best hand anymore.


River:

I would call a small bet from villain here at most.
Other than that I check behind because I see no value in betting this river against a tight villain:

Hands I can see villain calling with on flop and turn but not calling a descent river bet:

- any KQ
- any KT
- any T8 (except the suited)


Hands I can see villain calling with on flop and turn AND calling a descent river bet
(unfortunately they beat you)

- A Q
- A J
- any KJs/o
- any QTs
- KK (unlikely though, as he would have reraised pre-flop)
- JJ
- 99
- (of course) any flush

Hands I can see villain calling with on flop and turn AND calling a descent river while you are ahead
AK and AA (which are both unlikely as they might/would have reraised pre-flop/on the flop)

I can't see much value in betting here.
When your bet is called you will be dead in about 90% of cases. You need more than 50.

So I like checking this river.

I either bet fold the river or check behind.

I think you def need to bet the river, you are losing value.
Bet something smallish so that he feels like he has to call cause of the odds with a 1 pair hand, about half the pot.

I don't mind the check on the river. Villain's check-call check-call seems like a prelude to a c-r on the river. A ten dollar pot for a middle two seems enough. You're not likely to extract any extra money from an Ad with a pair etc. The most likely hands you'll get called by is a two pair that has you beat (like KJ) or a small flush.

I guess it really depends on how much of a calling station the villain is and whether he will pay off a value bet on the river with one pair.

The line "Villian has been playing fairly tight and aggressive, betting hard when strong." in the OP makes me think he doesn't have a really strong hand.

If we do bet, it's an easy fold to a check/raise.




This is why I like a smallish bet, like $5.5, so the villain feels like he has to call with a one pair hand also, not just two pair+.

I'm with Dictius here. Betting about 5.50 on the river is correct.

I don't see anyone that you have a read of "Bet's hard when strong" check calling when he makes a flush and then c/r the river when you may check behind. If he raises the river, obviously we fold because we beat nothing that he does that with but complete air.

Would this still hold true if he reads us as competent enough to not call multi-street bets with draws/single pairs?

If he reads us as aggressive and did flop the joint couldn't he take the line he did?



Given Hero's actions in this hand couldn't the villain be fairly confident of a river bet since we've lead out all the way through?

As for the ~half pot size bet it seems a bit much, not by a lot, just a tad.

If he will pay off a 5.50 bet 40% of the time our EV is 2.20
If he will pay off a 3.50 bet 66% of the time our EV is 2.31

So by making a bet ~1/3 the pot our EV may be higher as well as limiting our exposure to a c-r.
Or would this bet actually be too inviting and ellicit the c-r?

So what we've got is middle two pair on a check-calling board with a villain who checked the river to us ... I don't think he made a hand of any kind ... straight or flush ... the villain HAS to bet it if he hit his hand, right? I think he might have a really passively played KT or something in that neighborhood. He'll call a half pot bet.

If we bet and get raised, I guess we can fold and growl about being stupid enough to have actually bet.

After my turn bet got called i had a bad feeling that i was behind (i thought he might have hit his flush and was relying on my aggression to get extra value from the hand, as i have so far bet every street) which is why i checked behind him on the turn. Usually i would bet.

How much of a surprise would it be if i said he turned over KK? and flopped top set so i was behind every street.

Not a huge surprise but it was toward the less likely end of the spectrum of possibilties I would have put him on. I thiink you had good instincts there on the turn.

If it makes you feel any better I don't think he played it that well.

KK? lol Check/calling that flop with KK is pretty terrible with so many draws out there.

I think the problem with betting 1/3 the pot is that it looks waaay to inviting to raise with air and bluff us out of the pot.