Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $80.70
UTG+1: $17.75
CO: $43.45
Button: $46.90
SB: $51.55
Hero: $50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 8 4 9 2
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, 3 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: T 7 J ($1.75, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.75, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 6 ($5.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $2.6, Hero raises to $13.05, UTG calls.

River: 2 ($31.35, 2 players)
Hero ?

I think a c/f seems too weak, you're still tied/ahead here most of the time. I think that a c/c line is probably best, unless he shoves or something in which case you can fold.

DISCLAIMER: I've only seriously played Omaha a few times. This post is honestly more for me than it is for you.

Other option is a blocker bet - still probably folding to a shove. oop sucks and I hate getting trapped in these spots from bb.

Why the check-call on the flop? Why not lead out or check-raise?

And how do you interpret his half-pot lead on the turn? Strange that he'd lead 1/2 pot and then call a huge check-raise.

Any particular reason for the check/call on the flop? Waiting for a safe turn I assume?

He sure played it like a set. I like the blocker bet play. I think a set, may pay off a 1/3 pot bet, and you can fold to a shove, only getting ~2.5-1, which has to be a flush almost always. If you bet 1/2 the pot, you'd be getting about 3.2-1 (I think), making a fold a little harder but I think you're beat more than 75% of the time.

Being OOP Sucks.

Edit - jmbreslin beat me to the c/c flop question, I type slow.

Check called waiting for a safe turn, as you mentioned. I had a shit hand with NO redraw potential and any card 7 or higher that would have hit the turn I could get away from it.

How is the flopped nut straight on a rainbow board a shit hand? Granted you have no improvers but isn't it worse to give a free card here? Or is it because there are so many cards that can hurt you on the turn that it's not worth betting the hand?

ding ding ding. I can't put in enough to chase anyone off, and 85% of the deck are bad cards for me (anything higher than a 6, paired or not)

The situation didn't really get better when you see the turn card and he bets. On the flop, at least you had a 3-flush.

In that case, why continue with the hand at all? Why not just fold to his bet on the flop?

Folding the flop with only one other opponent is uber weaksauce. If UTG had bet and UTG+1 had called (or even worse raised) then I could find a fold.

FD on flop and i can go for a check call.

Rainbow flop , i am repotting all day.

I think I"m half-potting here. I really feel like villain just has a set or top two. Seems like a good spot to pick off a bluff by c/c as well.

Well I was thinking that this may be a major leak of mine (ie always raising in this spot, nuts no redraw) but then....




hmmm, he makes a good point

So you wouldn't fold the nuts ever? or if there is way too much action then OK to fold nuts (say FD is present)?

I am folding nuts here if FD is present and there is a pot and repot before me.

Btw i don't like leading this flop. We rarely get value from worse hands and we never make a better hand fold. After half potting river , will we be able to fold against a raise?

I like checking and inducing a bluff in spots like these. I sometimes pay off a BD flush but i think i win more than i lose in the long run.

i think depending on the opponent this is an excellent spot for a blocking bet (15 or 20). if not that then check/call.

So you want to bet $15 or $20 on river leaving us $15 or $20 stack and then fold to a raise? $15 to call for $70?

By check calling we can go to showdown aprox for the same price while getting value from bluffing hands which normally folds to our blocker bet.

I like check-calling the river against aggressive opponents. This is a good spot to pick off bluffs. Against a passive opponent, I like a half-pot value bet on the river and folding to any raise.

I would definitely check-repot this rainbow flop, then lead pot on that turn card.

I just can't understand the bet fold line on river. We will bet $15 and pot will be around $60-$70 and we will fold to a raise leaving us around $15.

Oops... I didn't look at stack sizes at that point...

Yep, bet/fold is bad here.

Haven't read responses.

I am definitely not trying to check-fold that. I mean it's totally player-dependent or read-dependent so it's really hard to say what to do. I mean, we could lead knowing that he is super tight and only raising the nuts (allowing us to try to see a cheapish showdown). Or maybe he loves to bluff so we definitely don't want to lead (we want to check-call), etc. If he had flopped the flush draw I would be much more inclined to check-fold. I'm not saying check-fold is bad, but it's definitely not a certainty.


EDIT: The more I think about it, the less I like check/fold. I think we bet/fold or check/call and I lean heavily toward the latter.

I think this is much less of a factor on a rainbow flop.