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DonkSlayer
Not a terribly interesting hand but for some reason I felt like I was repopping light here. My read on the villain is that he's not so great and rarely dumps hands preflop.


PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($56.60)
SB ($47)
BB ($48.15)
Hero ($42.50)
MP (villain)/ ($64.25)
CO ($32.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T, J, A, Q.
Hero raises to $1.5, MP (villain)/ calls $1.50, 2 folds, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold.

Flop: ($5) J, 6, T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.75, villain raises to $19, SB folds, Hero raises to $41, villain calls $22.


Final Pot: $87
bdc30
looks good to me. hopefully he misses his wrap
DonkSlayer
We never, ever, ever see a set of 6's here right?
bdc30
In a 4-card game you can't say "never ever" to anything. He could have 6678, etc, but I think you're good enough to get it in here.
jmbreslin
2-pair and a GSD with no flush redraw? That's about as weak a playable hand as it gets in this game. How can Hero possibly be in good shape here?
BudBundy
I have seen almost every 4 card combination is the same exact situations.

Seems standard to me even if he shows JJ , KQ9 or 7322.
jmbreslin
Honestly, how likely is it that villain would be pot-raising here with something like AKQ9, 9876, or worse as opposed to a set? Is it really common enough to make this profitable?
Merby
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Sunday, March 30th, 2008, 7:32 PM) *
I have seen almost every 4 card combination is the same exact situations.

Seems standard to me even if he shows JJ , KQ9 or 7322.


Add him to your buddy list if he shows 7322.
jmbreslin
I've been thinking about this hand more and I'm going to make a crazy suggestion. Don't just rip me a new one for being weak, I'd like to hear a good explanation for why this wouldn't be a good move (since I'm assuming you will disagree).

How about check-calling the flop?

Here's why. Hero is sandwiched between 2 villains, so he's not heads-up and doesn't have positional advantage. He's flopped a decent hand but he's either way behind a set, a slight fav over a good draw, or way ahead of a weak draw. By leading the flop Hero opens himself up to a raise, which forces him into the tough decision he faces now: calling a pot-raise or committing all his chips with merely a decent hand. By checking the flop he gives himself the chance of getting a free turn card to fill up or hit the nut straight, and if MP bets he can see the turn for much cheaper than if he bets and faces a raise.

Thoughts?
bdc30
I still like leading out. After raising from UTG, the villain will be putting us on aces likely - thus, he'll be raising anything that he thinks is ahead of naked aces. We could just as easily see T6, J6 or some kind of draw here. If he has the two case J's or T's - call it a cooler and move on. If he's drawing...hopefully our 60/40 holds.
jmbreslin
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Tuesday, April 1st, 2008, 1:04 PM) *
I still like leading out. After raising from UTG, the villain will be putting us on aces likely - thus, he'll be raising anything that he thinks is ahead of naked aces.


Unless Hero has been raising more widely prior to this, but otherwise I see your point. Is this a common move, when you put a player on AA by his PF raise you bet/raise any non-A flop to test his hand?
bdc30
I'll c/r a non ace flop that I catch a piece of to test a guy that I put on aces, yeah
DonkSlayer
More and more, I like my push. I came back to this after seeing some recent replies. Obv worst case scenario is a set of 6's. Next worse is a 7, right? Everything else that could put us behind we are drawing very live to...including the fact that any better two pair villain can make gives us a straight (or at least a tie with Q10). Not sure why I felt this was weak.
bdc30
results?
DonkSlayer
QUOTE (bdc30 @ Thursday, April 3rd, 2008, 3:41 PM) *
results?


I don't still have the hand but it was either KK106 or KK79 from the villain and he bricked out. I think more likely it was the latter.
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