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BudBundy
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $100
UTG+1: $250.35
CO: $59.50
Button: $92.90
Hero: $101.80
BB: $147.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif 8 icon_suit_spade.gif 7 icon_suit_diamond.gif T icon_suit_club.gif
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button raises to $4.5, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 5 icon_suit_heart.gif 9 icon_suit_club.gif 8 icon_suit_club.gif ($18, 4 players)
Hero bets $18, BB calls, UTG+1 raises to $90, Button folds, Hero

No reads.

Leading flop bad?

What now since i led?

Also bonus question :

How many of you are 3-betting OOP in this situation?
bdc30
I check looking for the c/r on the preflop raiser. I let this one go, since you don't have clubs to back it up and he's got the straight or a set here 98% of the time. I never ever ever 3bet this preflop out of the small blind without a read.
BudBundy
ahosang , stop lurking and post.

You are a good poster. Come on , contribute.
jmbreslin
Your hand isn't as good as it looks because many of your straight outs aren't nut outs and you don't have the flush redraw. I play this one cautiously.
TRB05
I can't think of a reasonable hand that we're way ahead of here except for naked aces, and I don't really see UTG+1 having that. I like the bet-fold on the flop, you only have 4 nut outs, I let it go.

I don't 3-bet preflop here.
BudBundy
I guess i am the only one who is optimistic here. Against a naked 76 , I have 11 outs. Against a 76 with a FD , i have 8-9 outs.
simo_8ball
You know what I would do most of the time preflop.

You know what I would do most of the time on the flop.

I hope this post was enlightening for you. smile.gif
BudBundy
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Thursday, March 27th, 2008, 6:28 AM) *
You know what I would do most of the time preflop.

3-bet

You know what I would do most of the time on the flop.

Lead if 3-bet preflop , C/R if didn't 3-bet pf.

I hope this post was enlightening for you. smile.gif

right?
jmbreslin
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Wednesday, March 26th, 2008, 9:55 PM) *
I guess i am the only one who is optimistic here. Against a naked 76 , I have 11 outs. Against a 76 with a FD , i have 8-9 outs.


And what about against hands like JTxx, or KQJx, or 55xx with 2 clubs...
simo_8ball
You know me well.

Our hand has just so much equity on so many flops, and we can often fire at random dry A high flops to rep a set.

I don't really like playing multiway pots OOP. If we can get it HU or 3-way, we can really bet hard and win a lot of pots with fairly weak hands (second pair and oesd or something). If it's multiway and a smaller pot, we really do need a big hand to continue with postflop.

I don't mind leading the flop, but wat can I say, I love checkraising. If we bet and get called, there are so many turn cards that give us weird problems. By checkraising we negate the positional disadvantage.
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