BudBundy
Wednesday, March 26th, 2008, 4:02 PM
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
ConverterStack sizes:UTG: $100
UTG+1: $250.35
CO: $59.50
Button: $92.90
Hero: $101.80
BB: $147.95
Pre-flop: (
6 players) Hero is SB with 9

8

7

T
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds,
Button raises to $4.5, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.
Flop: 5

9

8

(
$18, 4 players)
Hero bets $18, BB calls,
UTG+1 raises to $90, Button folds, Hero
No reads.
Leading flop bad?
What now since i led?
Also bonus question :
How many of you are 3-betting OOP in this situation?
bdc30
Wednesday, March 26th, 2008, 4:10 PM
I check looking for the c/r on the preflop raiser. I let this one go, since you don't have clubs to back it up and he's got the straight or a set here 98% of the time. I never ever ever 3bet this preflop out of the small blind without a read.
BudBundy
Wednesday, March 26th, 2008, 4:40 PM
ahosang , stop lurking and post.
You are a good poster. Come on , contribute.
jmbreslin
Wednesday, March 26th, 2008, 5:01 PM
Your hand isn't as good as it looks because many of your straight outs aren't nut outs and you don't have the flush redraw. I play this one cautiously.
TRB05
Wednesday, March 26th, 2008, 5:29 PM
I can't think of a reasonable hand that we're way ahead of here except for naked aces, and I don't really see UTG+1 having that. I like the bet-fold on the flop, you only have 4 nut outs, I let it go.
I don't 3-bet preflop here.
BudBundy
Wednesday, March 26th, 2008, 5:55 PM
I guess i am the only one who is optimistic here. Against a naked 76 , I have 11 outs. Against a 76 with a FD , i have 8-9 outs.
simo_8ball
Wednesday, March 26th, 2008, 6:28 PM
You know what I would do most of the time preflop.
You know what I would do most of the time on the flop.
I hope this post was enlightening for you.
BudBundy
Thursday, March 27th, 2008, 4:52 AM
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Thursday, March 27th, 2008, 6:28 AM)

You know what I would do most of the time preflop.
3-betYou know what I would do most of the time on the flop.
Lead if 3-bet preflop , C/R if didn't 3-bet pf.I hope this post was enlightening for you.
right?
jmbreslin
Thursday, March 27th, 2008, 10:05 AM
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Wednesday, March 26th, 2008, 9:55 PM)

I guess i am the only one who is optimistic here. Against a naked 76 , I have 11 outs. Against a 76 with a FD , i have 8-9 outs.
And what about against hands like JTxx, or KQJx, or 55xx with 2 clubs...
simo_8ball
Thursday, March 27th, 2008, 4:08 PM
You know me well.
Our hand has just so much equity on so many flops, and we can often fire at random dry A high flops to rep a set.
I don't really like playing multiway pots OOP. If we can get it HU or 3-way, we can really bet hard and win a lot of pots with fairly weak hands (second pair and oesd or something). If it's multiway and a smaller pot, we really do need a big hand to continue with postflop.
I don't mind leading the flop, but wat can I say, I love checkraising. If we bet and get called, there are so many turn cards that give us weird problems. By checkraising we negate the positional disadvantage.
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