Ok, played in a live tournament tonight and this hand really left me stumped.
10 Handed
Hero has about $2,800 in chips
Villain 1 has about $2,200
Villain 2 has about $2,400
Blinds are 100/200
Villain 1 raises to 600, Villain 2 raises all in, 2 folds, Hero[TcTs]??
FYI: V1 is UTG and V2 is UTG+1
V1 has been showing down fairly strong hands and I was definitely putting him on overs(but not a PP - had a fairly airtight read on this guy). V2 is completely new to the table, maybe his 4th or 5th hand.
V2 is what threw me off. Had it have been heads up with V1 my stack was going in the middle.
Do we play for the big stack here, or do we find a better spot?
Full Version: Pocket Tens Facing A Raise And A Re-raise All In
Respect their position and fold.
It looks like the best you can hope for is them holding sometihing like A/K suited and mayby a pocket 9's.
Even with that best scenario you are still playing for pretty mutch your tournement life. with slim odds.
What is the rest of the info. How far in the tournie are you, what's the stack of the other players (are you averidge, low, etc). Paint the picture.
IMO especiaaly in tournements the stage of the tournement and the rest of the table are vital to a play, almost just as mutch as the actual cards which are being played.
Even with that best scenario you are still playing for pretty mutch your tournement life. with slim odds.
What is the rest of the info. How far in the tournie are you, what's the stack of the other players (are you averidge, low, etc). Paint the picture.
IMO especiaaly in tournements the stage of the tournement and the rest of the table are vital to a play, almost just as mutch as the actual cards which are being played.
QUOTE (copernicus @ Tuesday, March 25th, 2008, 5:31 AM) 
Respect their position and fold.
+1
It looks like an easy fold to me, but it truly depends on the chip average. It also depends how deep are you in the tournament.
If you're really shortstacked hope that you're facing AQ and AK and gamble. If you're doing ok, look for a better spot that's what i think
If you're really shortstacked hope that you're facing AQ and AK and gamble. If you're doing ok, look for a better spot that's what i think
Sorry guys. I posted this after playing for 9 hours.
We were at the 5th level of the tourney, so not super deep. About an hour and 20 minutes in, past the rebuy period. I would say I was around chip average. I was also one of the bigger stacks at the table, but not by much. There were a couple of guys with 3 and 4000 in chips. The rest were sitting around 1,500 or so.
The main reason I posted this was to make sure I did the right thing, which was folding. The other thing is, this hand cost me the final table, but that's results based thinking.
Edit: I ended up 14th or 15th out of 90 in this tourney. V1 had AhQh and V2 had Kd8d. I about punched the rail off the side of the table when none of those cards except the 8 hit on the whole board.
We were at the 5th level of the tourney, so not super deep. About an hour and 20 minutes in, past the rebuy period. I would say I was around chip average. I was also one of the bigger stacks at the table, but not by much. There were a couple of guys with 3 and 4000 in chips. The rest were sitting around 1,500 or so.
The main reason I posted this was to make sure I did the right thing, which was folding. The other thing is, this hand cost me the final table, but that's results based thinking.
Edit: I ended up 14th or 15th out of 90 in this tourney. V1 had AhQh and V2 had Kd8d. I about punched the rail off the side of the table when none of those cards except the 8 hit on the whole board.
QUOTE (AndyZ28 @ Tuesday, March 25th, 2008, 5:33 PM)
Sorry guys. I posted this after playing for 9 hours.
We were at the 5th level of the tourney, so not super deep. About an hour and 20 minutes in, past the rebuy period. I would say I was around chip average. I was also one of the bigger stacks at the table, but not by much. There were a couple of guys with 3 and 4000 in chips. The rest were sitting around 1,500 or so.
The main reason I posted this was to make sure I did the right thing, which was folding. The other thing is, this hand cost me the final table, but that's results based thinking.
Edit: I ended up 14th or 15th out of 90 in this tourney. V1 had AhQh and V2 had Kd8d. I about punched the rail off the side of the table when none of those cards except the 8 hit on the whole board.
We were at the 5th level of the tourney, so not super deep. About an hour and 20 minutes in, past the rebuy period. I would say I was around chip average. I was also one of the bigger stacks at the table, but not by much. There were a couple of guys with 3 and 4000 in chips. The rest were sitting around 1,500 or so.
The main reason I posted this was to make sure I did the right thing, which was folding. The other thing is, this hand cost me the final table, but that's results based thinking.
Edit: I ended up 14th or 15th out of 90 in this tourney. V1 had AhQh and V2 had Kd8d. I about punched the rail off the side of the table when none of those cards except the 8 hit on the whole board.
Dont carry it with you. They had close to the weakest combo of hands possible against TT for that action, and you still only had 36% equity. Figures the donk who cost you the pot would win and be the worst had of the bunch.
QUOTE (copernicus @ Wednesday, March 26th, 2008, 1:22 PM)
Dont carry it with you. They had close to the weakest combo of hands possible against TT for that action, and you still only had 36% equity. Figures the donk who cost you the pot would win and be the worst had of the bunch.
That's what pissed me off. If Mr. K8 suited was not in the pot, I was all over the action and I would have had a pretty healthy stack for this early of the tourney.
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