jmbreslin
Friday, March 21st, 2008, 9:49 AM
QUOTE (copernicus @ Friday, March 21st, 2008, 12:28 PM)

Thats one of the ironies of poker. This type of play shouldnt be rewarded, yet calling a donk bet like this creates the potential for it to be rewarded! Another example is a pot bet on the turn to clearly price out a flush draw, the flush card hits and you call a push because his calling the turn with a draw was such a bad play...but your call gives him the implied odds he needed to make the call in the first place! And what level was he thinking when he called the turn bet....first or third? (or is it zero and 2d?)
Of course someone who calls the pot bet to chase the draw probably isn't a smart enough player to be thinking in terms of the implied odds, since he/she probably doesn't have a basic understanding of pot odds to begin with. Here's an example from a $1.10, 45-turbo:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed)
Poker-Stars Converter Tool from
FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
CO (t970)
Button (t850)
SB (t3595)
BB (t5055)
UTG (t1225)
Hero (t2525)
MP1 (t2790)
MP2 (t1120)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q

, A

.
1 fold,
Hero raises to t450,
5 folds, BB calls t300.
Flop: (t975) T

, A

, 5
(2 players)BB checks,
Hero bets t450, BB calls t450.
Turn: (t1875) Q
(2 players)BB checks,
Hero bets t750,
BB raises to t1500,
Hero raises to t1625, BB calls t125.
River: (t5125) 4
(2 players)Final Pot: t5125
Results:
BB has Js Ks (straight, ace high).
Hero has Qs As (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: BB wins t5125.
I didn't exactly make a pot bet on the flop, but the bottom line is that he called my 450 CB into a 975 pot with a gutshot. Yikes.