Take a look and comment on it if you want. I'd appreciate it. I got lucky in a few spots when I tried stealing the blinds, and got lucky when I needed to. But I feel I played it fairly well.
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I'll give you my 2 cents so far.
2. 4xbb raise w/ 33 in mp this early? I'd personally call and set mine. You get the flop like you did and you end up spewing. Limp and fold with that flop.
4. Fold preflop. 97 this far oop isn't the greatest, suited or not.
7. T7 in the bb, you get a free flop, flop KK2, you call a bet? I don't get that.
14. 33 oop, again, I'd limp and fold to any raise.
16 & 20. You are god.
24. Major overbet. Don't be afraid of playing that hand post flop. I'd go 4 or 5x bb, not 10x.
36. Why raise. I'd probablly fold this preflop this far off the button. If anything, I'd limp. You getting 3 bet on this is big trouble.
40. I play it similar. He played top pair pretty weak and gave you good odds all of the way.
59. If you are going to raise KJ this this far out and you hit top pair on the flop, you have to play it stronger imo. I would re-raise his 700 and put pressure on him. If you aren't going to play this hand strong when you hit top pair, don't raise it oop.
81. Fold Q8 to the raise. I know you are big stack and in position, but that sucks.
120. I don't know if I'm raising KJo UTG with this many big stack in front of me. Well played post flop.
136. You HAVE to reraise here. JJ in the BB with 2 limpers. Reraise to 1600.
145. There's no point in limping there. If you play that hand, go in raising and at least represent some strength. It will be easier to bluff. Or fold preflop., which is probably what I'd do.
156. See 145.
165. Stick to standard. You are not in desperate need here and you only get called if you are beat. The blinds aren't this important to you here to risk your tournament. 3x bb raise.
175. Fold to the min raise this far oop. Yes, it's only a min raise but the guy has a HUGE chip lead. I'd stay out of his way with QJo.
182. That sucked.
187. You got 4:1 to call the pf raise with 85o. What do you think you need to hit in order to win this hand? 2 pair, trips, or straight. I think it's -ev to call the raise there, but would be interested to do the numbers. I'll do that later.
191 & 229. God is back.
230. I'd probably fold, but it looks like a bit of a tilt play too seeing as you've taken a bunch from him. J9o though calling a 3x in the bb is pretty marginal. I've done this in the past though thinking I have a read.
259. Sicko
All in all, fairly standard imo. You seriously ran like god. I think I counted AA 3 times and kk 3 or 4 times, not to mention all of the big slicks. You played post flop pretty good. The preflop had a few holes, but mostly in the early rounds.
ps. Congrats on the win. Obv brag post
2. 4xbb raise w/ 33 in mp this early? I'd personally call and set mine. You get the flop like you did and you end up spewing. Limp and fold with that flop.
4. Fold preflop. 97 this far oop isn't the greatest, suited or not.
7. T7 in the bb, you get a free flop, flop KK2, you call a bet? I don't get that.
14. 33 oop, again, I'd limp and fold to any raise.
16 & 20. You are god.
24. Major overbet. Don't be afraid of playing that hand post flop. I'd go 4 or 5x bb, not 10x.
36. Why raise. I'd probablly fold this preflop this far off the button. If anything, I'd limp. You getting 3 bet on this is big trouble.
40. I play it similar. He played top pair pretty weak and gave you good odds all of the way.
59. If you are going to raise KJ this this far out and you hit top pair on the flop, you have to play it stronger imo. I would re-raise his 700 and put pressure on him. If you aren't going to play this hand strong when you hit top pair, don't raise it oop.
81. Fold Q8 to the raise. I know you are big stack and in position, but that sucks.
120. I don't know if I'm raising KJo UTG with this many big stack in front of me. Well played post flop.
136. You HAVE to reraise here. JJ in the BB with 2 limpers. Reraise to 1600.
145. There's no point in limping there. If you play that hand, go in raising and at least represent some strength. It will be easier to bluff. Or fold preflop., which is probably what I'd do.
156. See 145.
165. Stick to standard. You are not in desperate need here and you only get called if you are beat. The blinds aren't this important to you here to risk your tournament. 3x bb raise.
175. Fold to the min raise this far oop. Yes, it's only a min raise but the guy has a HUGE chip lead. I'd stay out of his way with QJo.
182. That sucked.
187. You got 4:1 to call the pf raise with 85o. What do you think you need to hit in order to win this hand? 2 pair, trips, or straight. I think it's -ev to call the raise there, but would be interested to do the numbers. I'll do that later.
191 & 229. God is back.
230. I'd probably fold, but it looks like a bit of a tilt play too seeing as you've taken a bunch from him. J9o though calling a 3x in the bb is pretty marginal. I've done this in the past though thinking I have a read.
259. Sicko
All in all, fairly standard imo. You seriously ran like god. I think I counted AA 3 times and kk 3 or 4 times, not to mention all of the big slicks. You played post flop pretty good. The preflop had a few holes, but mostly in the early rounds.
ps. Congrats on the win. Obv brag post
It's a semi brag post. Haha. I know I got lucky in a few spots. I did want to make sure that I'm playing good at least and not just luck-boxing it. I'll comment on some of the hands that you commented on later.
Like the KK2 flop. If I called and won the pot, I was merely betting on the fact he didn't have a King because of no PF raise. I'd have to look through the hand again to make sure, but I think that's what happened. And yes, I did catch AA, KK, and AK a lot. I've never caught cards like that before.
On the FT I had a lot of reads on people. The bonzo guy was raising like a maniac and calling down SUPER SUPER SUPER SUPER light. Did I say super enough? I don't think I did, SUPER LIGHT! Haha.
Edit: Hand 7....I have no clue why I called the flop. I might have zoned out, or was for some reason hoping to catch a 10. I really don't remember. Haha.
#24 was a misclick. Meant to make it 120 and I already clicked raise before I saw it. It would have been 120 otherwise.
#136 - Not sure why I didn't raise JJ here. That's really strange that I didn't, I always do.
#175 - bonzo was spewing chips like crazy and called down super light. He had some really strange play, I exploited this later on. This is why I called his min-raise, although I see your point to folding it PF. He went from being chip leader to busting out fairly quickly after I got some chips.
#230 - Again, bonzo. It looked like a tilt play and I've seen him go into pots with 53os. He did some of the strangest stuff I've ever seen.
Like the KK2 flop. If I called and won the pot, I was merely betting on the fact he didn't have a King because of no PF raise. I'd have to look through the hand again to make sure, but I think that's what happened. And yes, I did catch AA, KK, and AK a lot. I've never caught cards like that before.
On the FT I had a lot of reads on people. The bonzo guy was raising like a maniac and calling down SUPER SUPER SUPER SUPER light. Did I say super enough? I don't think I did, SUPER LIGHT! Haha.
Edit: Hand 7....I have no clue why I called the flop. I might have zoned out, or was for some reason hoping to catch a 10. I really don't remember. Haha.
#24 was a misclick. Meant to make it 120 and I already clicked raise before I saw it. It would have been 120 otherwise.
#136 - Not sure why I didn't raise JJ here. That's really strange that I didn't, I always do.
#175 - bonzo was spewing chips like crazy and called down super light. He had some really strange play, I exploited this later on. This is why I called his min-raise, although I see your point to folding it PF. He went from being chip leader to busting out fairly quickly after I got some chips.
#230 - Again, bonzo. It looked like a tilt play and I've seen him go into pots with 53os. He did some of the strangest stuff I've ever seen.
I got about halfway through it, and without reading anyone elses comments, one thing stood out:
You don't respect position nearly enough.
You don't respect position nearly enough.
QUOTE (AndyZ28 @ Thursday, March 20th, 2008, 8:09 PM) 
It's a semi brag post. Haha. I know I got lucky in a few spots. I did want to make sure that I'm playing good at least and not just luck-boxing it. I'll comment on some of the hands that you commented on later.
Like the KK2 flop. If I called and won the pot, I was merely betting on the fact he didn't have a King because of no PF raise. I'd have to look through the hand again to make sure, but I think that's what happened. And yes, I did catch AA, KK, and AK a lot. I've never caught cards like that before.
On the FT I had a lot of reads on people. The bonzo guy was raising like a maniac and calling down SUPER SUPER SUPER SUPER light. Did I say super enough? I don't think I did, SUPER LIGHT! Haha.
Edit: Hand 7....I have no clue why I called the flop. I might have zoned out, or was for some reason hoping to catch a 10. I really don't remember. Haha.
#24 was a misclick. Meant to make it 120 and I already clicked raise before I saw it. It would have been 120 otherwise.
#136 - Not sure why I didn't raise JJ here. That's really strange that I didn't, I always do.
#175 - bonzo was spewing chips like crazy and called down super light. He had some really strange play, I exploited this later on. This is why I called his min-raise, although I see your point to folding it PF. He went from being chip leader to busting out fairly quickly after I got some chips.
#230 - Again, bonzo. It looked like a tilt play and I've seen him go into pots with 53os. He did some of the strangest stuff I've ever seen.
Like the KK2 flop. If I called and won the pot, I was merely betting on the fact he didn't have a King because of no PF raise. I'd have to look through the hand again to make sure, but I think that's what happened. And yes, I did catch AA, KK, and AK a lot. I've never caught cards like that before.
On the FT I had a lot of reads on people. The bonzo guy was raising like a maniac and calling down SUPER SUPER SUPER SUPER light. Did I say super enough? I don't think I did, SUPER LIGHT! Haha.
Edit: Hand 7....I have no clue why I called the flop. I might have zoned out, or was for some reason hoping to catch a 10. I really don't remember. Haha.
#24 was a misclick. Meant to make it 120 and I already clicked raise before I saw it. It would have been 120 otherwise.
#136 - Not sure why I didn't raise JJ here. That's really strange that I didn't, I always do.
#175 - bonzo was spewing chips like crazy and called down super light. He had some really strange play, I exploited this later on. This is why I called his min-raise, although I see your point to folding it PF. He went from being chip leader to busting out fairly quickly after I got some chips.
#230 - Again, bonzo. It looked like a tilt play and I've seen him go into pots with 53os. He did some of the strangest stuff I've ever seen.
#175. You calling the reraise based on your read on him, fine. But being this far out of position, it's everybody else that you have to worry about. If I'm on the button with a small pai or anything semi strongr, I'm all in versus a min bet and a caller. It just looks too weak.
230. Yeah, I agree with you. I do this play too, but when he fires first on the flop, it throws everything out the window. A reraise would probably do, but the fold is the right play.
QUOTE (copernicus @ Thursday, March 20th, 2008, 8:57 PM)
I got about halfway through it, and without reading anyone elses comments, one thing stood out:
You don't respect position nearly enough.
You don't respect position nearly enough.
IOW, fold more PF? I value your opinion, so please get back to this post when you get a chance to watch the rest of it.
QUOTE (AndyZ28 @ Thursday, March 20th, 2008, 9:41 PM)
IOW, fold more PF? I value your opinion, so please get back to this post when you get a chance to watch the rest of it.
Exactly. If you notice my critique as well, most of it had to do with your play out of position. You shouldn't always fold out of position, but don't overvalue hands oop. Hands like AQ or KJ (a few that you played UTG) are far more valuable on the button than they are UTG.
QUOTE (outsider13 @ Thursday, March 20th, 2008, 9:55 PM)
Exactly. If you notice my critique as well, most of it had to do with your play out of position. You shouldn't always fold out of position, but don't overvalue hands oop. Hands like AQ or KJ (a few that you played UTG) are far more valuable on the button than they are UTG.
That I realize. It really depends on the flow of the table with what hands I play UTG. About a month ago I finally started folding AJ, AQ and such UTG and PF. Before I would always come in with them. You gotta remember I've only been playing about 10 months. I'm still learning at a great speed, but I'm starting to get into the more advanced parts of poker and things are coming along a little slower now.
The early stages of the tourney, I was at the same table for quite awhile if I remember right. I know I was because I was disappointed that I got moved. I was doing well at it and was completely comfortable at it.
I understand why both of you say that I do not respect position enough, but I really don't play KJ and AQ, etc OOP that much. I happened to this time, but it tends to mix up. If I start running good I loosen up and try to hit a lot of flops and usually tighten up when I start missing them.
This thread makes me happy. From what it sounds, you either TID or got 2nd. I'm really really happy to see you progressing like this, keep it up.
QUOTE (AndyZ28 @ Friday, March 21st, 2008, 12:39 AM)
That I realize. It really depends on the flow of the table with what hands I play UTG. About a month ago I finally started folding AJ, AQ and such UTG and PF. Before I would always come in with them. You gotta remember I've only been playing about 10 months. I'm still learning at a great speed, but I'm starting to get into the more advanced parts of poker and things are coming along a little slower now.
The early stages of the tourney, I was at the same table for quite awhile if I remember right. I know I was because I was disappointed that I got moved. I was doing well at it and was completely comfortable at it.
I understand why both of you say that I do not respect position enough, but I really don't play KJ and AQ, etc OOP that much. I happened to this time, but it tends to mix up. If I start running good I loosen up and try to hit a lot of flops and usually tighten up when I start missing them.
The early stages of the tourney, I was at the same table for quite awhile if I remember right. I know I was because I was disappointed that I got moved. I was doing well at it and was completely comfortable at it.
I understand why both of you say that I do not respect position enough, but I really don't play KJ and AQ, etc OOP that much. I happened to this time, but it tends to mix up. If I start running good I loosen up and try to hit a lot of flops and usually tighten up when I start missing them.
Sorry..doodoo has hit the fan at work. It will take till tomorrow or Sat. to finish watching. Heres what I have so far:
Hand 7 – not sure what the flop call was all about!
Hand 35- spew even though you won it! Youre out of position with a garbage hand, but probably bored after folding so many hands in a row
Hand 36-don’t love it, especially since your table has been calling pretty freely
Hand 40- a limp/caller is weak A quite often, Id fold when the A flops and he shows aggression
Hand 59- don’t like playing this hand, especially with the BB on the short side. If he has a reasonable hand at all youre going to be playing for a lot more chips than your initial bet, and KJ from early position is not a hand I want to mess with against other players
Hand 60-A4s from early position=spew
Hands 67 and 68-very similar and again too weak to get involved with from early/mid positition. Your 33/15 stats are pretty loose and the table should start to recognize it.
Hand 78-a couple of errors in replay a few hands before this, not sure what happened. On hand 78 again a pretty loose play from EP with KJs and it wound up costing you. If you want to play speculative hands like this OOP then limp and minraise some of these and some of your big hands, so you can get away with the funky ones more cheaply
Hand 81-if youre going to play from the button raise it. It wins the pot outright most of the time, and when if its raised/fold it will get your better hands calls later
Hand 107-ditto EP play with spec. hands, although now that antes have started if the table shows some tightness then suited connectors start to be more playable. This table just hasn’t tightened up enough imo.
It sounds like you recognize the value of position, but let the size of your stack influence you to loosen up a bit too much. If you have a big chip lead and the table lets you bully them then you can loosen up. This table wont let you do it, so you shouldnt try and force the action. They will be under blind pressure much sooner than you and you need to retain your stack so that you can afford to call their pushes with wide ranges and lose a coupe without crippling your stack.
QUOTE (gfdsa146 @ Friday, March 21st, 2008, 1:02 AM)
This thread makes me happy. From what it sounds, you either TID or got 2nd. I'm really really happy to see you progressing like this, keep it up.
Yes, I took it down. I appreciate the comment. You've been a big help to me, and I hope to be a big help to you as well.
copernicus - Hand 7....Haha. Yea, hand 7 I think I called on the flop to steal on the turn but decided against it. Finally figured out it was a really really bad spew. I mostly did it because I felt his flop bet was a positional bet and thus, I felt I'd try and steal the turn.
I also will admit that yes, my stack size does effect how I play. I don't go completely off the handle though. I'm still fine tuning exactly how I like to play. I've went all the way from so tight that I squeeze charcoal with my ass and shit a diamond out, to being an extremely loose player and I've thinned it down to where I am now. Like I said, still fine tuning myself and my play, and in 10 months time I'd say I've done very well. I'm proud of myself and my accomplishments so far, and now this is starting to sound like more of a brag post. Haha.
Continue critiquing please. I'm enjoying this because you always see the other angles when you analyze someone else's play.
Stop open limping after 15/30..In fact, don't even do it then..Its really bad and really spewy
I didn't read anyone else's replies, so this very well may be old news..But here goes
I'm just going to comment on the 2nd hour and beyond..
Hand 64: I'm reraising preflop the majority of the time here, although I'd be a bit more hesistant to do it because a 3x raise after an UTg limper is usually pretty strong..I don't know, I don't think flatting with position is awful, but its not great..If you were OOP, I would prefer a Go n go with stacks...Reraise to 1800, shove any flop if he calls/call any push preflop
67: Please don't open limp K10 in MP..Raise or fold...And since the BB is sitting out, just raise
68: Fold this, too early of position
72: I like on all streets..Nice hand
78: I don't like the raise UTG..At a tigher table, I don't hate it but at this table, it seems to not be a +ev move
81: I know you have position, but please don't call raises from UTG raisers with Q8s..And then when you hit an ideal flop, just call and fold unimproved..Just shove flop, you get AK to fold which is good
97: I know you just raised the last hand, but please don't open limp in the CO with KQ..Stacks behind you make it a little bit of an akward situation..This might be a better spot for a 2x or 2.5x raise
107: With table dynamics, I'd prolly muck this one too
110: I'm jamming this every single time, unless you have a solid read that this guy is min raising only monster from UTG
113: Stop limping in MP, fold
120: Please don't open KJ utg at a new table..Its a bad idea w/ reads typically..Its a really bad idea w/out reads
136: Raise preflop to t1800
143: Too big of a bet.Get value from your hand, and bet 1/2 the pot
145: Don't open limp the button with anything, let alone 10 7 os, with a big stack behind you..Raise or fold
156: See above
158: Don't open limp (DOL)
165: I think thats too big of a stack to be shoving, with an M of about 8..This is a really tough stack to play though, cuz Raise/folding sucks, Raise/calling sucks, shoving is too much of an overbet, and open folding sucks..I really am not sure what the best line is, but I usually take a raise standard and see what happens line
175: Really, really bad..You cant flat a min raise from UTG, whose a maniac, for a 1/7 of your stack with the rest of the table behind you, even if its a short handed table..Unless you are trapping with a monster..QJ os=trap hand, not a monster..Bet the flop when checked to, bet the turn when checked to, fold the river...You have Q high, I don't understand that call at all
187: I know its a min raise, but against a maniac and being sandwitched here, I just fold 85 os..Its spew
188: Don't complete 82s OOP
191: LOL luckbox
196: With a little less than 1 PSB left, I just jam the turn..Make him pay max for drawing to his flush
200: Typically a good fold
216: I'd make a smaller reriase here..Pop it to 14K, jam any flop if he calls..It will be almost exactly a PSB
228: I'm prolly not going to mix it up w/ the one guy who can bust me..Just fold to his flop bet
229: NH
230: Once again, I'm not mixing it up with mediocre hands against him..However, I think you can flat his flop bet here cuz your implied odds are probably huge if you spike a 10
236: DL
239: Dont complete
255: I'm not sure how much I like flatting OOP against this maniac, but I don't like raising a whole lot, and folding sucks too..Maybe flatting isn't terrible, w/ the intentions of C'RAI any flop you hit
I didn't read anyone else's replies, so this very well may be old news..But here goes
I'm just going to comment on the 2nd hour and beyond..
Hand 64: I'm reraising preflop the majority of the time here, although I'd be a bit more hesistant to do it because a 3x raise after an UTg limper is usually pretty strong..I don't know, I don't think flatting with position is awful, but its not great..If you were OOP, I would prefer a Go n go with stacks...Reraise to 1800, shove any flop if he calls/call any push preflop
67: Please don't open limp K10 in MP..Raise or fold...And since the BB is sitting out, just raise
68: Fold this, too early of position
72: I like on all streets..Nice hand
78: I don't like the raise UTG..At a tigher table, I don't hate it but at this table, it seems to not be a +ev move
81: I know you have position, but please don't call raises from UTG raisers with Q8s..And then when you hit an ideal flop, just call and fold unimproved..Just shove flop, you get AK to fold which is good
97: I know you just raised the last hand, but please don't open limp in the CO with KQ..Stacks behind you make it a little bit of an akward situation..This might be a better spot for a 2x or 2.5x raise
107: With table dynamics, I'd prolly muck this one too
110: I'm jamming this every single time, unless you have a solid read that this guy is min raising only monster from UTG
113: Stop limping in MP, fold
120: Please don't open KJ utg at a new table..Its a bad idea w/ reads typically..Its a really bad idea w/out reads
136: Raise preflop to t1800
143: Too big of a bet.Get value from your hand, and bet 1/2 the pot
145: Don't open limp the button with anything, let alone 10 7 os, with a big stack behind you..Raise or fold
156: See above
158: Don't open limp (DOL)
165: I think thats too big of a stack to be shoving, with an M of about 8..This is a really tough stack to play though, cuz Raise/folding sucks, Raise/calling sucks, shoving is too much of an overbet, and open folding sucks..I really am not sure what the best line is, but I usually take a raise standard and see what happens line
175: Really, really bad..You cant flat a min raise from UTG, whose a maniac, for a 1/7 of your stack with the rest of the table behind you, even if its a short handed table..Unless you are trapping with a monster..QJ os=trap hand, not a monster..Bet the flop when checked to, bet the turn when checked to, fold the river...You have Q high, I don't understand that call at all
187: I know its a min raise, but against a maniac and being sandwitched here, I just fold 85 os..Its spew
188: Don't complete 82s OOP
191: LOL luckbox
196: With a little less than 1 PSB left, I just jam the turn..Make him pay max for drawing to his flush
200: Typically a good fold
216: I'd make a smaller reriase here..Pop it to 14K, jam any flop if he calls..It will be almost exactly a PSB
228: I'm prolly not going to mix it up w/ the one guy who can bust me..Just fold to his flop bet
229: NH
230: Once again, I'm not mixing it up with mediocre hands against him..However, I think you can flat his flop bet here cuz your implied odds are probably huge if you spike a 10
236: DL
239: Dont complete
255: I'm not sure how much I like flatting OOP against this maniac, but I don't like raising a whole lot, and folding sucks too..Maybe flatting isn't terrible, w/ the intentions of C'RAI any flop you hit
#255 - Wasn't sure what to do. I opted to flat. I played it really passively as well.
216 - Yea, I got overzealous on that one. Pretty sure I might have gotten a boner that hand.
110 - I don't know what the hell I was thinking on that one. I'm glad you guys are pointing it out. Because as I watch these hands over, I myself, wonder just what the hell I was thinking.
136 - As I said before, I'm still not sure why I didn't re pop this one.
216 - Yea, I got overzealous on that one. Pretty sure I might have gotten a boner that hand.
110 - I don't know what the hell I was thinking on that one. I'm glad you guys are pointing it out. Because as I watch these hands over, I myself, wonder just what the hell I was thinking.
136 - As I said before, I'm still not sure why I didn't re pop this one.
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