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Kwan Li
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($90.65)
Button ($62.80)
SB ($75.30)
Hero ($74.75)
UTG ($82.30)
MP ($47.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
3 folds, Button raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, Hero raises to $7.5, Button calls $5.50, SB calls $5.50.

Flop: ($22.50) , , (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18, Button calls $18, SB folds.

Turn: ($58.50) (2 players)
Hero ???

Button is 46/18/.86 over 150ish hands. Pretty donkish.

Opinions on what the best line is on this hand?
krup24
preflop and flop action are perfect

against this guy his holdings are wide. i would expect a variety of club holdings and ace holdings. i don't let the Q slow me down here and i bet his last $37 and expect to be called by a wide range that we crush and a few that beat us.
Canute
QUOTE (Kwan Li @ Wednesday, March 19th, 2008, 11:35 AM) *
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($90.65)
Button ($62.80)
SB ($75.30)
Hero ($74.75)
UTG ($82.30)
MP ($47.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
3 folds, Button raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, Hero raises to $7.5, Button calls $5.50, SB calls $5.50.

Flop: ($22.50) , , (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18, Button calls $18, SB folds.

Turn: ($58.50) (2 players)
Hero ???

Button is 46/18/.86 over 150ish hands. Pretty donkish.

Opinions on what the best line is on this hand?



What does the 46/18/.86 stand for?

And as for the hand, the queen is very ugly, but you have come too far and he does not have that much left and he could have a lot of other hands you beat and pot is big. So push.
BaseJester
Push.

We have several outs even against AQ. He's not going to bet worse hands, but he may very well call with them.
Webslinger516
QUOTE (Canute @ Wednesday, March 19th, 2008, 11:42 AM) *
What does the 46/18/.86 stand for?


Ah, I just learned this, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

It's: % of hands played / % of total hands played coming in raising / Aggression factor.

Any Agression factor less than 1.5 is generally a pretty passive player and will not likely be bluffing when he puts in a raise.

So in this specific example, the guy plays 46% of the hands he's dealt, he raises 18% of his preflop hands, and he's pretty much a check/calling player.
Canute
QUOTE (Webslinger516 @ Wednesday, March 19th, 2008, 10:51 AM) *
Ah, I just learned this, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

It's: % of hands played / % of total hands played coming in raising / Aggression factor.

Any Agression factor less than 1.5 is generally a pretty passive player and will not likely be bluffing when he puts in a raise.

So in this specific example, the guy plays 46% of the hands he's dealt, he raises 18% of his preflop hands, and he's pretty much a check/calling player.



Ok thanks. Yeah based on those numbers this guy is a loose maniac. You gotta push for sure.
Webslinger516
QUOTE (Canute @ Wednesday, March 19th, 2008, 12:14 PM) *
Ok thanks. Yeah based on those numbers this guy is a loose maniac. You gotta push for sure.


Well, if I'm right about the stats, I wouldn't call him a loose maniac. I'd call him a loose passive player. He's a true calling station. A loose maniac would have the same kind of stats, but with a super high aggression factor. Someone who frequently is in there raising and betting with a wide range. This guy is a passive donk who you better watch out if he puts in a raise.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (krup24 @ Wednesday, March 19th, 2008, 10:38 AM) *
preflop and flop action are perfect ... against this guy his holdings are wide. i would expect a variety of club holdings and ace holdings. i don't let the Q slow me down here and i bet his last $37 and expect to be called by a wide range that we crush and a few that beat us.


QFT. If he holds two pair, we have a ton of outs. If he has a straight, we still have outs. If he has a set, we have a couple outs. If he's behind, we want his chippies.
Canute
QUOTE (Webslinger516 @ Wednesday, March 19th, 2008, 12:17 PM) *
Well, if I'm right about the stats, I wouldn't call him a loose maniac. I'd call him a loose passive player. He's a true calling station. A loose maniac would have the same kind of stats, but with a super high aggression factor. Someone who frequently is in there raising and betting with a wide range. This guy is a passive donk who you better watch out if he puts in a raise.


Ok, i think I misinterpreted the middle number (18) a little. Looking at it again, he is overall passive because of the .86 aggression factor, but preflop he is semi aggro raising about one out of five hands.
Webslinger516
QUOTE (Canute @ Wednesday, March 19th, 2008, 1:26 PM) *
Ok, i think I misinterpreted the middle number (18) a little. Looking at it again, he is overall passive because of the .86 aggression factor, but preflop he is semi aggro raising about one out of five hands.


I think you're right - preflop he's semi-aggro. I'm still learning the stats stuff too.
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