villain is a weird reg/fish. i have no idea what his call means

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $642
UTG+1: $446.60
CO: $873
Button: $741.05
Hero: $633
BB: $594.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with J J
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises to $30, BB raises to $90, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $222, BB calls.

Flop: Q 5 3 ($450, 2 players)
Hero ???

If your read on villain is "fish", he is probably also lost right now with his AK or at least does not really like is AQ too much.

My estimate would be AK,AQ, KK,QQ and maybe AhJh and AsJs as well as the suited KQs. I think no fish can resist shoving with Aces here. I can't.

He will probably call our shove with the AhKh, AhJh, any of the remaining AQ and KQ and of course he wont fold KK and QQ.

Suppose the range is correct. What is our move now?

Do we have enough equity against the AK hands and draws to shove?

Do we check/fold, check/call.
Or do we throw out an unsecure looking half pot contibet and then call the shove?

Dealt to Simo123 [Ad Ac]
200Marlboro folds
Bleaulaw calls $0.50
Simo123 raises to $2.50
Kirketerp raises to $8
Bleaulaw folds
Simo123 raises to $20.50
Kirketerp calls $12.50
*** FLOP *** [8c Qd Ks]
John_Galt65 has reconnected
Simo123 bets $29.50, and is all in
Kirketerp calls $29.50
Simo123 shows [Ad Ac]
Kirketerp shows [As Qs]
*** TURN *** [8c Qd Ks] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [8c Qd Ks Ts] [3s]
Simo123 shows a pair of Aces
Kirketerp shows a flush, Ace high
Kirketerp wins the pot ($98.50) with a flush, Ace high


Villain here was 22/19 and seemed somewhat decent. I know stakes are different, but the hand is near identical.

I think villain can show up with a few different hands here. He could definitely be slowplaying AA (or waiting to see if an ace hits with KK), he could have AK, he could have TT. I probably just shove to try and represent AK, pick up a call from 99/TT. Maybe get a random call from AK thinking he's splitting.

Stack sizes are soooooooooo awkward.

I'm pretty sure I'd just misplay this no matter what move I make on the flop.

If you bet, he's likely never calling or shoving worse. If you check, he's likely betting/shoving worse, but with better hands also.

I'll get back to you.

If this were a HU match, you'd still have the nuts.

Hi Mikey. Why didn't you just shove this PF?

Man. He hates you so much. I am constantly amused by the situation

LMAO. Thanks for responding so he sees my post. Please respond to this one too. Tell him I'm sitting at around +$11,000 for the month at the $1/$2 NL game. I know that's not much to a high roller like him, but having a donk like me winning that at $1/$2 just has to burn his ass.

One things for sure, if we bet we have to call a shove. He's got $372 behind. How aggro is this guy? Acid made a good comment about checking to allow worse hands to bluff shove, I think that maximizes our value when we're ahead and minimizes our loses (only slightly) when we're behind. He may sometimes check a better hand and we could spike a jack on the turn to give us the lead.

wow. quite impressive.

I don't think we can fold here vs a 'fish'. So, now we just need to know the line which gets the money in when we have more equity.

If he's the least bit aggro, I think a c/c is solid, or c/r to get it in if he bets less than his stack.

If he's just a passive fish, shove here and hope he calls with 99,TT,AK type hands.

With your 5xOR pre and his 3xRR of that, I think you need to be calling or shoving pre. Stacks just aren't big enough to run this route...and the position will kind of suck. Let's say we opened for $24 instead, and he went to $72...now a re-raise to $200 is somewhat more plausible.