PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP1 ($21.35)
MP2 ($130.65)
MP3 ($101.50)
CO ($8.70)
krownroyal83 ($98.50)
SB ($74)
BB ($100)
UTG ($98.50)
UTG+1 ($213.05)

Preflop: krownroyal83 is Button with , .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 4 folds, krownroyal83 raises to $3, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $2.

Flop: ($7.50) , , (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, krownroyal83 bets $5, UTG+1 calls $5.

Turn: ($17.50) (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, krownroyal83 bets $10, UTG+1 calls $10.

River: ($37.50) (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $30, krownroyal83 ????

Alright, I'll give you a real response now.

Preflop is okay, I usually make it 4x if someone limps.

Flop is fine. That's a dumb board though, too draw heavy imo.

Turn I would bet a little more, something like $14.

I don't really see you beating much on the river. If villain is bluffey I'd call, if not, maybe its time to let it go?



By the way, the section that says "No limit hold'em cash games" is the best for this type of thing.

Post better.

I'm not happy with either a call or fold. I just don't see a hand betting this river we beat, but I don't like getting bluffed off pocket Aces after he calls me to the river without a hand I can put him on. I think a Q is raising the flop, so QJ is unlikely to me. JJ with the J of diamonds, maybe. A poorly played flush?

it's a good spot to check behind on the turn, unless you really think he's prepared to put a lot of money in the center with less than top pair.

pot the flop

How is this ever a good spot to check behind? We have the NFD and the nut overpair. Bet for value, always.

I call the river but I puke while doing it.

4.5x preflop, please. 3x after a limper is silly.

This whole hand makes me sick.

I'm slamming the turn with 15$ other than that wp I'm calling the river too.

and with insight like that, I can't imagine why you're still stuck playing micro stakes.

lol, low blow.

I'm pretty sure I'm betting the turn for value most of the time, although your logic makes sense. Getting raised sucks, but I don't think it's that bad. I just think this hand is a little too strong to check behind.

Anyways this hand smells a lot like QxJd.

Preflop really is bad, as most people have said. My standard is to make it 5x after a limper. sometimes i will even go to 6x. and if you were oop, it would definitely be 6x.

Flop looks good to me, i might bet slightly closer to pot as its a drawy board.

I check behind on the turn a lot also, as abba said. I think getting 2 streets of value out of this hand is good. And checking the turn makes us look pretty weak to him, so he may pay off with a medium pocket pair, which is what his hand is a lot of the time i think. Once the flush draw gets there on the turn, even though we do have the Ad, i like keeping the pot relatively small. If he has the flush, and we bet, we're getting raised...and then its a really shitty spot. I dont like betting if i dont know what to do when i get raised.

As played, i guess i call? i dont like doing it...but i prolly call here. If we had checked the turn, and he lead the river...obv we are calling every time since we induced a bluff/thin value by checking the turn.

try and envision what hands you're betting the turn with here of the hands you could have.

if the large majority of them are top pair +, then your only hope of getting paid off is that he is completely unobservant.
micro-champions (see: 75% of people playing at those stakes) tend to err on the tight/passive side, with the tight portion being almost justified because of how passive everyone else is. if the worst hand he calls your turn bet with is top pair ok kicker, then you are much better off checking.


if this is played at 5/10NL, it becomes a better spot to bet. because people who are familiar with the games are going to expect a much higher level of aggression, and even if YOU play identically, they're going to generalize those tendencies onto you. so when they see you 2 barreling, they will have more of a reason to pay off with lesser hands. they'll also far less often have a flush draw, since they themselves are likely to play it aggressively on the flop - just as they are less likely to have big hands, since they will be less inclined to slowplay.

Oh woops, sorry I don't see poker as a profession, or that I've only ever taken two shots at online poker when I'm better at live, nor am I rich, bad beat for me I guess. Personal shots are a nice way to have a poker discussion though, douchebag.



You really don't think that at 100nl, there are people at are completely unobservant and will call the turn here with KQ, QJ, Q10, or any of those hands especially if they have a diamond? Are you kidding?

What do we usually expect people to call with when we bet overpairs? If it's me, I expect them to call with top pair. How often do you bet into somebody and expect them to call with much worse? Obviously they'll call with draws, but on this board the draw hit so he's more likely to raise, and I'm not really going to be pissed off if he does c/r me. Against some villains, I would call, and others, folding the NFD doesn't really make me too upset with one card to come, since against a turn c/r, that's basically all we have. I just not into checking behind at low stakes NLHE, and then blind calling basically any river. On the turn we have a pretty strong hand and it's fairly likely that we have the best hand.

Wow, suck at life much?

Im sure there's nothing more frustrating to someone relegated to micros than reminding them why.

If being honest makes me suck at life, then you've got a point. But the only way for a microchampion to grow as a player is to start questioning him/herself and the things that he or she knows to be true about poker. And that doesnt happen by storming through message boards, telling everyone what is standard.

That's your free lesson of the day.
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Lol. People like you are the reason that a small number of people actually post in strategy. 90% of the people that think they know what they're talking about (and maybe they even do know some general knowledge) are just arrogant jackasses who act like they are better than everyone else, and then when they get questioned, they just insult everyone and brag about their win rate. You must have an awesome life if you have to come to the strat forum to insult people who play low stakes.

Get a life, or are you really that insecure?

Well, I guess there are a couple of ways to tackle this...

First, I dont know what your beef with NoBBir is... I have no clue what stakes he plays - but his posts are always polite and helpful (more than what can be said for yours).
Second, do you believe that the levels you play at are the sole indicator of skill? Im sure there are a lot of people playing a lot higher than you that suck at poker.
Third, this is a poker forum where people post to try to get better. What you and another poster on this forum (won't name any names, but im sure you know you're a douchebag) is discourage people from wanting to post here, because instead of getting condescending, holier than thou answers, people that post questions in these types of forums just want to get better.

Which brings me to my last point: Are you in need of a self-esteem boost so much that you have to go to poker forums and berate people that you think yoiu're better than? Whats the point? What do you gain from it?

You may or may not be the best poker player in the world, but you're busto as a human being.

I thought the whole point of strategy was to see other's opinions on how they would play a hand in order to get better. This is a great place for that since there is a high mixture of good players and beginners in this forum. How about saying "I disagree, and this is how I would play it" instead of the insults. LETS BE CIVIL PEOPLE!

Anyways... I don't have much to add, except I would bet a little more on each street. And I would force myself into a call even though I'm skeptical of a flush, I think if the villain had a Qx he would have bet the flop. I think it is also a possibility that the villain is weak, and is bluffing the river which is why I would have to call. If he had a big hand I would expect more of a smaller sized value bet on the river.

What kind of hands limp call UTG+1? SCs, small PP.

On the flop there's a lot of draws for UTG+1 range of SCs and turn fills most of them (45, xdxd), but the interesting part is that he still flat calls you.
What is his calling range on turn? Straight scared of flush? Slowplayed flush? Lone Q? Still on a draw (89)? Set? Reads would help here a lot (is he passive or agressive?).

River bet is big which might be for value (we've shown strength on every street he knows we're strong) or bluff - cannot really tell without the reads.
Bluff hands: 89 only (Q is never turned into bluff here)
Value bet hands: QJ and slowplayed flush (scared set nor straight wouldn't donk bet here).

I'd wait for the better spot (develop some reads) and get his money then. I fold.