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StilettoNole
Honestly, I hate playing deep. I wouldn't have thought twice about shoving this with 100BB, but the fact that both of us have quite a bit more than that makes this a tougher play for me. (And, maybe I am a pussay for that... but, I am just trying to fill you in on my thought process during the hand.)

I am playing good solid poker and I have only gone to showdown once with a flush. Villain is currently at 22.22% / 5.05%/ 0.65 and I don't feel like I have solid read on him.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

SB ($29.60)
BB ($7.10)
UTG ($16.75)
MP ($38.35)
Hero ($49.50)
Button ($25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
1 fold, MP raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, MP calls $2.15.

Flop: ($6.35) , , (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $4.75, MP raises to $10, Hero... (All-In)


Thanks guys.
Andromeda
I don't see villain calling your PF raise with pocket 7s or 2s...potentially JJ but I think this is probably a flush draw.


I play like a pansy so I'm probably folding so that means the best thing is to shove.
Sheiky
This is AJ/KJ QQ often enough to shove imo.
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (Sheiky @ Friday, March 14th, 2008, 10:59 AM) *
This is AJ/KJ QQ often enough to shove imo.

Easily.

I disagree that he won't show up with 22 or 77 though since lower limit players call reraises with pairs all day long, not knowing how much $$ they're losing doing it.

I probably RR to $25 and call his shove.
Temporary Nuts
QUOTE (StilettoNole @ Friday, March 14th, 2008, 12:37 PM) *
Villain is currently at 22.22% / 5.05%/ 0.65


It starts to look like maybe it could be a fold here...

QUOTE (StilettoNole @ Friday, March 14th, 2008, 12:37 PM) *
and I don't feel like I have solid read on him.


but becomes an insta reraise here... dunno if you wanna shove or do that pot committing bet thinger... up to you... either way bye bye chippies and GOD DMAN STES
breathweapon
If you weren't in the small blind, I'd fold this, but as it stands he could be seriously under valuing your hand.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (StilettoNole @ Friday, March 14th, 2008, 9:37 AM) *
Hero... (All-In)
Thanks guys.


Get a coin out.
Heads you shove. Tails you fold.
Flip it.
Act accordingly.

Either 1.6 buyins isn't deep, or I properly loathe online poker.
litlebullet
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, March 14th, 2008, 10:46 AM) *
Get a coin out.
Heads you shove. Tails you fold.
Flip it.
Act accordingly.

Either 1.6 buyins isn't deep, or I properly loathe online poker.

have you ever played sngs? I don't know how to play with more than 20 blinds nowadaws
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (litlebullet @ Friday, March 14th, 2008, 11:04 AM) *
have you ever played sngs? I don't know how to play with LESS more than 20 400-1000 blinds nowadaws


FYP
StilettoNole
QUOTE (litlebullet @ Friday, March 14th, 2008, 12:04 PM) *
have you ever played at pokerstars? With everyone buying in short, I don't know how to play with more than 20 blinds nowadaws

FYP
ROBBBIGG
this isn't that deep given effective stack sizes

and come on dude, do you really need to post a hand like this? you've posted some interesting ones, sure - but an overpair on a flop with two of a suit?
StilettoNole
QUOTE (ROBBBIGG @ Friday, March 14th, 2008, 2:02 PM) *
this isn't that deep given effective stack sizes

and come on dude, do you really need to post a hand like this? you've posted some interesting ones, sure - but an overpair on a flop with two of a suit?

Honestly, and this is obvious, I lost this hand. I was shocked though as to what the villain had and I thought that made an interesting post. So everyone shoves here, but what do we put him on?

So far we have the standard 22, 77, JJ, K-J, A-J or two diamonds. Any other guesses?
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (StilettoNole @ Friday, March 14th, 2008, 1:56 PM) *
Honestly, and this is obvious, I lost this hand. I was shocked though as to what the villain had and I thought that made an interesting post. So everyone shoves here, but what do we put him on?

So far we have the standard 22, 77, JJ, K-J, A-J or two diamonds. Any other guesses?


someone ****ing with you with a 7 doooey? It happens.
Andromeda
I was actually going to say 72 but I guess I was hoping people wouldn't really be that dumb to not fold PF...not like you were playing the 72 game or something! 72 seems totally plausible because I personally wouldn't expect it...
MikeBauer26
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Friday, March 14th, 2008, 7:03 PM) *
Easily.

I disagree that he won't show up with 22 or 77 though since lower limit players call reraises with pairs all day long, not knowing how much $$ they're losing doing it.

I probably RR to $25 and call his shove.


Can you provide a bit more details here? Why is this loosing too much money?

From what I've seen most players put all their chips in with AA on the 257 Rainbow Flop.
Do people actually stop going broke with overpairs at higher stakes? (Honest question).
I know you're good at poker. I read in books not to call with anything lower than 99. And still if I hit I get way more implied odds from AA to QQ at .10 levels.

So what is the reason for backing off with the smaller pocket pairs? Avoiding oder at least reducing ugly Set over Set Situations`where we have the worst of it?

I don't like shortstackers either... still they provide some chips....
ROBBBIGG
QUOTE (StilettoNole @ Friday, March 14th, 2008, 1:56 PM) *
Honestly, and this is obvious, I lost this hand. I was shocked though as to what the villain had and I thought that made an interesting post. So everyone shoves here, but what do we put him on?

So far we have the standard 22, 77, JJ, K-J, A-J or two diamonds. Any other guesses?


I don't wanna bang on you and sorry you lost, but in this spot, you just give the villain your money and move on if he's got you.
Sheiky
QUOTE (MikeBauer26 @ Saturday, March 15th, 2008, 2:03 PM) *
Can you provide a bit more details here? Why is this loosing too much money?

From what I've seen most players put all their chips in with AA on the 257 Rainbow Flop.
Do people actually stop going broke with overpairs at higher stakes? (Honest question).
I know you're good at poker. I read in books not to call with anything lower than 99. And still if I hit I get way more implied odds from AA to QQ at .10 levels.

So what is the reason for backing off with the smaller pocket pairs? Avoiding oder at least reducing ugly Set over Set Situations`where we have the worst of it?

I don't like shortstackers either... still they provide some chips....


I'd like to know this to, both players seem deep enough to call the re-raise and even though MP is OOP, the fact it's a RR pot means he's going to take heros stack more often when he hits.
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